EVE General Discussion

It was full of bitter vets.

Imagine going thru null without seeing anyone for 20-30 jumps. eve was a game of exploration back then. it was all new and even the Devs were still learning. ( who lost their corpse ccp? :) )

there was no "Jita" several systems were hubs and there was a connecting route between all, because not every hub had everything. aka a superhighway. CCP had events daily or weekly that would interact with the players, most of the time you would log on to find maybe 1500-2500 people online. breaking 5k was a huge feat. tech 2 miners came out and the apoc instantly became the uber miner( im not kidding)

it was alot closer community, even tho we hated each other in-game. hard to explain i afk'd from stain to Tenal in a raven and only saw one guy in null sec. that was in dec 2003. my first trip north. long empty trip.

agent missions were mostly pointless. lvl 3 was the highest and most ran them just to get the rumored t2 bpo's that were going to be introduced.

first isk printer was the t2 cap recharger.

having a full set of Named launchers on a raven was only for the wealthy players. im talking Malkuth not officer named. officers didnt exist yet

Crow's were the elite ceptor

Damage mods stacked and when t2 guns came out , say ello to my little friend" armageddon"

so many memories.

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Bookmarks. people would make insta warps, gate to gate for every region. very lucrative if you could stand to do it. having a full set of the nullsec area you lived in WAS the difference between making it to empire with your cargo intact.. it also lagged the hell out of eve.

Huge fleet fights involved 200 people.

Eve was dying.

It hasn't died yet, and if you listen to the people around here, things are continually getting worse. So...

Eve is dying.

Wasn't around for the beginning... but started in 2004 well before battleships came out.

Random memories:

We used to set up an industrial or two with a mining laser and escorts- then mine 10 jumps into 0.0 When the indy's were full we'd use instajumps back. There was always a problem getting our escort guys to go because it was boring. 10 jumps into 0.0 was empty. Rats would pop up from time to time. But you could live out there and never see a soul- assuming you did not want to dock.

There was a real problem moving things in the old days. You had to make a 12km (or was it 15?) run to the gate after you came out of warp. It was a shooting gallery in most low sec pipes. So as others have mentioned we made bookmarks 15km past the gate and instajumped. That eventually brought pirates to the other side of the gate- and initiated the "gate camp" as we know it today. So the emphasis went from running speed to fast warp/agility/signature on the arrival side of the gate. Then CCP more or less made "warp to 0" standard since everyone was doing it anyway. But before that there was actually a market for bookmarks. Some people made huge bank on that.

You should have heard the pirates whine about the instajump bookmarks!! Those tears were tasty!

Mining wasn't so much of a profession, it was something you needed to do to survive or get ahead. I mined out my first Domi in a Vexor (which I had also mined out with an Imicus). I still have this Domi in my hanger today- it has seen a lot of action. I should have it bronzed or something.

Wars haven't changed much. One corp always docks up. This was before alliances.

Low sec was more usable because of low population. You could get things done as a non pirate. Now not as much. It's mostly criminals that are not part of a 0.0 alliance.

I had the honor of being pod-killed by Tank CEO who used to hang out in our area before he joined m0o.

There was a lot less population. Like we'd have less than 5000 pilots logged on. It was a big deal to pass 10,000 pilots (when it finally happened). You could really lose yourself in space back then (something I really miss).

Google for masters of 0wnage ...

They came out in July 2003. j0rt was in the first BS and got moved by GMs 20-30 hops away around then. No wtz so painful to return.

I had a Dommie, Raven and Scorpion in October 2003 so your dates are well off.

You woke up in the middle of the night to change a skill training as there was no queue.

O also, lets not forget the 40km/s Crows...


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The most wise of us would schedule the skills so they'd finish during "human" hours. Later on we got EvEMon doing that planning for us.


A new guy would not train up skills "just like that". First he'd have to raise skills that would raise the learning speed at learning other skills and getting those pre-requisites was also quite long.

No remaps = mistakes were harsh.

There were tons of kickoff stations, many more than now. Couple that (expecially in low sec) with the frequent "black screens of death" and undocking in low sec or as a FW-er was quite the heroic feat.

Caldari had everything: best starting stats, systems, agents placement so tons were of a specific min maxed Caldari family.
Minmatar were le suck, hit like wet noodles, it took years before they got well buffed.

The first titans were something so elite and "uber", could kill stuff from a distance and the handful of guys who had one were tracked by a specific thread on the forums.

Yep, prior to that though it was an incredibly long trip to get anywhere... which actually made space seem much more vast. It also stimulated local trade activity. You could make good money if you were willing to travel 60 jumps to buy cheap in one region and sell way high in another.