EVE General Discussion

It makes them feel unsafe.
They don't want to look foolish if they are AWOXed.
They don't want to appear disloyal to their own group.
They harbor resentment, mistrust, malice, etc. towards those not in their group.
They don't really "know" any reds or neutrals and don't want to examine people as individuals, but would rather just be "friends" with whoever their superiors/leadership tell them to be "friends" with.
They have no use for non-blues because their list of blues is so large that they can always find someone to fleet with.
They believe that blues are the good guys and reds (neutrals, too, if you're NBSI) are the bad guys and do not cooperate with them on principle.

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When I started playing, the first "reds" I ever really encountered were Red Alliance, Russians. I hated them. They roamed through our space. They ambushed us on our way to and from empire. They were hostile to us for apparently no reason whatsoever.
Then, one day, someone asked a question about them in our intel channel, something like: "How is that red docked in our station?". They didn't have docking rights there. Someone answered: "It used to be their station. This was their space. We took it."
So, all the time I thought I was defending "our" space, I was actually the invader, and I started to wonder why I was letting other people tell me who the "good guys" and "bad guys" were. I started to notice that those Red Alliance players had guts, whereas a lot of my "blues" were people I'd gladly have shot.
I saw a "blue" suicide gank someone in an industrial and I remember thinking several things, that I would really like to shoot that mother[expletive deleted], that I would probably find myself hot water with my corp if I did, that he would have blown up my industrial just the same if I wasn't blue to him, and that on any given day, if I were the villain, I'd probably want to be set as "blue" to everyone but the person I wanted to shoot on that day.

Most people don't want to think about these things. They just want to "hurr durr pew pew pew lulz0rd".

collect intel on brave newbies

right

I mean not like they learn too much, but they figure out some of our tendencies and what not.
Besides usually there's 1-2 spies in our coms at all times at home base. we expect that. can't tell you how many times you cal a primary and they just happen to align out before everyone even targets him

I've seen people lose battleships this way.

Good lolz there

Anxiety = (Risk perception)*(probability of coping)

A large part of the problem is that risk probability is assumed to be unknown. IN fact a sample size of 5 will give you an idea of the median result 93% of the time.

We tend to exaggerate risk. If you try something 5 times you'll know what probably going to happen. There will be outliers and there always will be but try something 5 times and your risk assessment will be as accurate as you need it to be for a game and your risk assessment will be realistic instead of nuclear attack defcon 1 level.

We also underestimate our ability to cope and adjust. Once more, the rule of 5 will tell us what our real ability to cope is.

Once we have a realistic idea of the threat and a realistic assessment of our own ability to cope anxiety comes down to a realistic level. when we trust that we will probably cope just fine, anxiety turns into the excitement of adventure.

And that is why people are risk averse in a nutshell

You just described the Vietnam war...

Read the OP as: "Why are people such risk averse penises.."

Definitely backing out of thread...

Yes, who would?

When I let neutrals join any fleet I control it means they're going to get popped for lulz.

And you're a ******* idiot. I never said ANYTHING about fleeting with reds to shoot blues (though that would be fun), I meant fleeting with neuts/reds to shoot OTHER neuts and reds, there's a difference.

Mayhaw Morgan hit the nail on the head. Many of the people who have the most fun in EVE can look past things like that.