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Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
#21 - 2013-09-07 11:34:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Eraza
all this aside, i miss the time when you could actually use expensive officer mods,
now when i get something epic as a drop,
i just sell it because there's no reason to ever officer fit anything..(aside from hardeners on capital ships, that can make sence)
you will just get ganked, those modules, a big "gank me" sign.
example, the full officer fit navy raven that got killed recently
those estamels/tobias launchers, those are for the pvp tournament flag ships now, nothing else..
S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-09-07 11:36:20 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:

NPCs podding gankers ?
Sure, when NPCs start podding mission runners too.
And miners who sit there in their pods.
Or autopiloting pods.

NPC's being able to pod players would cause a lot of tears, therefore it should happen.
Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
#23 - 2013-09-07 11:39:01 UTC
S'Way wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:

NPCs podding gankers ?
Sure, when NPCs start podding mission runners too.
And miners who sit there in their pods.
Or autopiloting pods.

NPC's being able to pod players would cause a lot of tears, therefore it should happen.


ah, i cant really say that would be a good idea for ccp, this would loose them subscriptions, and not really add much to the game
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#24 - 2013-09-07 11:47:43 UTC
NPC navies and CONCORD should pod criminal (or at least -10) players if they catch them. I never understood why this doesn't happen. And my status is usually criminal.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2013-09-07 11:50:39 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Oh boy this post!
Tell me what you dislike,
i will correct it free of charge.


Well everything in it is wrong and screams bitter poster.

Tell me what's wrong and i will add my POV more detailed.

From what i've seen i'm right (except for the exaggerated 99%),
but i admit that i can't see through all of new eden at once.


Well we cant be cowards when we are willing to go flashy red to everyone in high sec. I would say you replace that word with dashingly brave swashbucklers.
Doris Dents
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-09-07 11:51:30 UTC
Eraza wrote:
all this aside, i miss the time when you could actually use expensive officer mods,
now when i get something epic as a drop,
i just sell it because there's no reason to ever officer fit anything..(aside from hardeners on capital ships, that can make sence)
you will just get ganked, those modules, a big "gank me" sign.
example, the full officer fit navy raven that got killed recently
those estamels/tobias launchers, those are for the pvp tournament flag ships now, nothing else..

What time was that? Suicide ganking has never been harder or more expensive.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#27 - 2013-09-07 11:51:47 UTC
Zappity wrote:
NPC navies and CONCORD should pod criminal (or at least -10) players if they catch them. I never understood why this doesn't happen. And my status is usually criminal.


The pirate npcs should pod mission runners and the like.
S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-09-07 11:52:43 UTC
Eraza wrote:

ah, i cant really say that would be a good idea for ccp, this would loose them subscriptions, and not really add much to the game

Well it would be an ISK sink (which the game does need more of) - think of all those extra implants that would need replacing.

However given the direction EvE's been heading the last few years it'll never happen - the cold, harsh universe of long ago is gone as they chase the more mainstream playerbase which is more risk-averse.
Oh'so Scrumptious
Phoibe Enterprises
#29 - 2013-09-07 12:03:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Oh'so Scrumptious
Rey Ajaichi wrote:
First of all: i'm not against empire ganks, but i was wondering: what are the real consequences for people who choose to pirate?


Tippia wrote:
Anyone can kill you at any time.


Being a Pirate means you are leaving high sec for a Long time. Indeed this is why you will be Traveling through high sec in a fast ship. Empire Security forces will not catch you, and if you do get caught. They really arn't as harsh as concord. i have even Tanked them before.
Buts lets face it, As a Pirate, you wont be going into High sec. you will have a Hauling alt that will bring you all of your things and do all of your High Sec Tasks for you. Settled nicely within a Noob Corp so it can't be war-decked. Smart.
In fact. Your Pirate main will be living in low sec presumably, with the sole aim of PvP. The fact that people are trying to kill you is fantastic. you will get fights.

The ONLY real consequence of neg sec is that you will be taking Gate Gun fire. The fact that most Gatecamps are preformed with Battle-cruisers means that Gate-guns art really that terrifying as they sound

Quote:
If completely denying them the entrance in high sec is too harsh, then at least police should chase them even before they open fire on somebody. Am i wrong?


Why as a pirate are you going into High-sec?
You don't need High-sec as a Pirate. you Live and thrive in Low-sec.

The Empire will not Catch your Glass-cannon Gank destroyer as you skip on over to the Asteroid belts to melt the Miners. don't worry

In short.
There is no consequence to piracy. Only those who deem themselves Brave and Strong enough to pass through your system and Brave enough to mine in Neighboring high sec.
Piracy is by far one of the most Exciting and Violent careers in Eve.

Fly Deadly
Mildew Wolf
#30 - 2013-09-07 12:08:16 UTC
Cowards
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#31 - 2013-09-07 12:09:08 UTC
Rey Ajaichi wrote:
...maybe there's something that i'm missing.

Yes...

Making any suggestions on the forums to have game changes is a waste of time opening you to abuse, trolling and no real hope of success...

Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo...
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2013-09-07 12:10:59 UTC
Oh'so Scrumptious wrote:


Why as a pirate are you going into High-sec?


Thats where the booty is.
Oh'so Scrumptious
Phoibe Enterprises
#33 - 2013-09-07 12:11:22 UTC
Mildew Wolf wrote:
Cowards

Piracy is a Valid and Exciting career within Eve.
Dont like it, there are some Hilarious Anti Pirate Fleets going around this day and Age within Eve.

Its a Game. Have Fun
Oh'so Scrumptious
Phoibe Enterprises
#34 - 2013-09-07 12:11:51 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Oh'so Scrumptious wrote:


Why as a pirate are you going into High-sec?


Thats where the booty is.


*In anything other than a Gank Vessel
Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
#35 - 2013-09-07 12:21:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Eraza
Doris Dents wrote:
Eraza wrote:
all this aside, i miss the time when you could actually use expensive officer mods,
now when i get something epic as a drop,
i just sell it because there's no reason to ever officer fit anything..(aside from hardeners on capital ships, that can make sence)
you will just get ganked, those modules, a big "gank me" sign.
example, the full officer fit navy raven that got killed recently
those estamels/tobias launchers, those are for the pvp tournament flag ships now, nothing else..

What time was that? Suicide ganking has never been harder or more expensive.

oh that was something like 8-9 years ago, suicide ganking did not really happen then
i dont have a clue why, it was even possible to completely evade concord back then,
low sec now is about what high sec then was
i remember smartbombing someone and going *oops* and just docking..

i remember the time someone thought of ganking, there was tons of rage, and suddenly evading concord was no longer allowed, and concord started killing most things in one shot..
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2013-09-07 12:21:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
baltec1 wrote:
Well we cant be cowards when we are willing to go flashy red to everyone in high sec. I would say you replace that word with dashingly brave swashbucklers.

Nobody sees that in station.
The only time when most gankers are outside is when they need to travel.
That's either a "travel around", or "travel to victim".

The rest is done with an alt.

Cowards.
The carebears of "PvP", one could almost say.


I miss your explanation of why i'm wrong.
Alara IonStorm
#37 - 2013-09-07 12:26:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Oh'so Scrumptious wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Oh'so Scrumptious wrote:

Why as a pirate are you going into High-sec?

Thats where the booty is.

*In anything other than a Gank Vessel

My vessels certainly don't have a lot of booty in them because I fit tank appropriate, split up expensive cargo runs and use practically priced modules.

Piracy exists in Hi-Sec because others who are not me do not take such precautions, they pile 500 mil in cargo into a 2 million ISK T1 Industrial with no rigs, half the slots empty and the other half filled with cargo expanders (with hold only 10% full) then send it all on auto pilot.

They then complain when someone takes the ship. Condord doesn't need a buff and -10's don't need a nerf, players either need more IQ or have to stop whining when they lose a ship that is not fit for surviving the mission they set for it. Cargo runs are a mission like any other, you wouldn't expect to beat a lvl 4 mission with a half fit Caracal after all.

EVE is a game, sometimes you lose. The guys whom are currently winning, the profit gankers are doing so because the opposition has forgotten that they are playing.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#38 - 2013-09-07 12:27:50 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Well we cant be cowards when we are willing to go flashy red to everyone in high sec. I would say you replace that word with dashingly brave swashbucklers.

Nobody sees that in station.
The only time when most gankers are outside is when they need to travel.
That's either a "travel around", or "travel to victim".

The rest is done with an alt.

Cowards.
The carebears of "PvP", one could almost say.


I miss your explanation of why i'm wrong.


So what is stopping people from camping the sation, or the gate we are ganking on, or scanning us down as we set up?

Its not our fault people are too cowardly to attack us.
Oh'so Scrumptious
Phoibe Enterprises
#39 - 2013-09-07 12:45:05 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Well we cant be cowards when we are willing to go flashy red to everyone in high sec. I would say you replace that word with dashingly brave swashbucklers.

Nobody sees that in station.
The only time when most gankers are outside is when they need to travel.
That's either a "travel around", or "travel to victim".

The rest is done with an alt.

Cowards.
The carebears of "PvP", one could almost say.


I miss your explanation of why i'm wrong.


So what is stopping people from camping the sation, or the gate we are ganking on, or scanning us down as we set up?

Its not our fault people are too cowardly to attack us.


He has a Point you know.
Pirates weather the storm of all of Eve being Valid aggressors. Empire and Concord. Even Battling Gate-guns on a daily basis.

Its a wonder how people call them Cowards and the amount of people who say they 'cannot pvp' having just died to a well orchestrated gank. Id certainly not call pirates cowards :P
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2013-09-07 13:38:20 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
So what is stopping people from camping the sation, or the gate we are ganking on, or scanning us down as we set up?

Its not our fault people are too cowardly to attack us.
No.

How could they attack you, when you are hiding in station most of the time ?

They would attack you, if you wouldn't hide in the station!