EVE New Citizens Q&A

It really is a great game once you realise that "a sandbox where you can do whatever you want" means "a sandbox where everyone can do what they want".

There are in game consequences to actions but there isn't any in game protection from those actions.

Who gave you this doomsday impression of EVE? Yes there is PvP in this game and you will die sometimes, none is immune to it but as where some players specialize in hunting and killing others master their skills in avoiding to not get killed and both are equally important. In EVE you take risks and make decisions based on how much you willing to risk to complete your goal. Much like in real life you take risk of walking through forest in middle of night to get home faster or follow road that will take longer but at least you know you wont get lost.

I do trade and I have been in Jita countless times and all stories I heared from people (wont say their names) when I was newbie on how dangerous Jita is, is all overexaggeration. Just because there are 2500 people in Jita, stuff happens more often than in 20 people systems, but it does not mean its gank land where you die constantly.

In the end of the day, read a lot, ask often. Find how stuff work. Know how people PvP in EVE so you can learn to counter them and avoid direct contact. You said you going for exploration, well covert ops frigate is good start to avoid stuff, but ship alone wont save you if you do not know all the "tricks", and that comes with experience and even sometimes ship losses from which you learn to not to do same mistake again. If you truly dedicated explorer aim for Strategic Cruiser (T3) with Interdiction Nullifier subsystem and covert ops sub system, that will make you immune to 0.0 sec bubbles that prevent other ships from warping if they are in it. That will increase your survival by miles but like I said before, ship can take you so far, its the pilot skill and knowledge that will have great impact on your survival and avoiding.

Great point. For all of the forum hardman posturing you hear about vicious, Darwinian Eve (some in this very thread!) all but the most hardened griefers and spammers are very helpful if you've got the right attitude. The flashing convict who just blew you up almost always turns out to be decent and helpful in chat.

OP: I recommend editing your initial post, because now we're getting second wave posters donning their flame suits without reading the whole thread.

It wouldn't be very much fun if there was no risk! Which is why new explorers quickly leave the low-risk, low-reward, (read: boring) high sec systems. The loot you manage to obtain is much more valuable when others are afraid to go for it. And if you lose ships...well everyone loses ships :)

I love the fact that a game in this day and age of carebear companies actually keeps to its true vision. Keep up the good work.

Dude im a Noob and have no idea what Im doing most of the time but I really have not been greifed at all sence going Nul-Sec. Ive only ever gotten caught in a gate/base camp when I was not paying attention or just using "autopilot". When I do either of those I die and expect to. I have 0 idea what I am doing most of the time. Im in 40k isk imicis rigged for exploration Ive got no guns and I do just fine. Once I make some fat isk and I can afford to fly what I buy Ill pvp some. In the mean time get out to Null keep an eye on local. When you hit a system set up a safe point a couple of hunderd KM from the jump gate cloak up an scan till your hearts content! Mind you all I have found in the last 2 nights are WHs, Sleepers and gas sites. I blame it on the systems Im jumping to. I was in fountian and it seemed to be picked over and I passed throgh some occupied systems in delve and happily never got killed but didn't find sheet.

The tutorials give a nontrivial amount of money. The Sisters of EVE epic arc gives you around 40 million ISK worth of stuff.

A fully-fit t1 frigate costs well under a million ISK, a couple hundred thousand ISK of which is refunded by insurance (something you should be doing).

I'm not sure how you could be running into these issues unless you are buying expensive mods or skipped a bunch of stuff.

This is why player corps play such a vital role in the game. In my opinion everybody that plays Eve should join a PVP oriented corp at some point, just to learn the ropes. It will benefit them in the long run, it's a disservice to yourself to remain ignorant of it's mechanics. By doing PVP I've learned to avoid it better. Those skills in turn, come in handy with PVE outside of hisec, making ship replacement less painfull should you get caught or lose a fight.

The prices of frigates and destroyers are nothing to a veteran player or a corp as a whole. A PVP corp should have stacks of them or at least be willing to replace some cheap ships for newbies. If I request a tackle from a newbie and it blows up, I'll replace it. With some luck the loot of the kill even covers that expense.

Where is the excitement in clicking red crosses if there's no chance you will ever lose your ship?

Do you really enjoy the new gate animation so much, it sustains your enjoyment of the game through countless jumps?

Is the thrill of the hacking minigame and/or rearranging your probes the reason you do exploration?


What exactly is the purpose of a 'world' without consequences?

Try breaking a null-sec gatecamp in a mwd-cloak hauler loaded to the brim. Try finishing a valuable DED site while aligned and mashing scan wildly, looking for probes. Try running pirate missions in a (player-)pirate-infested region. Try belt-ratting in an ishtar, and trying to get your drones back before having to run from hostiles.

Then autopilot 100k (isk value) of cargo on a circuit from domain->sinq liaison->metropolis. Run level 2 missions in a dominix while in NPC corp. Mine veldspar with a venture in a 0.9 system.

Now you can tell me how stupid it is to have risk, consequence, and unintended player interaction.

Risk is what makes eve worth playing. Risk is what gets your blood flowing. Without risk, we have a very dumbed-down bacon button simulator.

T1 frigates with low skill points and no pvp experience don't kill anything, they just die... You need to join a pvp orientated corporation, to get the the needed the advice needed to kill something