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Brain crushing g-forces in the Catalyst
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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-09-05 02:24:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Droidster
I was flying a Catalyst today and I noticed that it's "arm" pivots suddenly to vertical when it turns.

I was wondering what the affect of that would be on those passengers unlucky enough to be situated near the end of the arm.

Estimating from the window sizes the arm of the ship appears to be about 2500 feet long. If it pivots to vertical in less than one second the acceleration/deceleration appears to be around 8000 feet per second squared, or about 250 times the accleration due to gravity. Since the average person blacks out at around 7 g's and their eyes will be destroyed around 40 g's, a ride in a Catalyst would probably be pretty uncomfortable. At 250 g's deceleration your brains would probably be coming out of your nose.

Of course, we might also wonder what variety of material the arm is made of that it can stand such torque. Hmmm.

Anyway, my recommendation would be to remain in the CENTER of the vessel if you are traveling on a Catalyst.
Sir Jack Falstaff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-09-05 02:31:48 UTC
My only regret is that I have but one like to give for this post.

Banish plump Jack, and banish all the world.
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#3 - 2013-09-05 02:40:10 UTC
It's not like we're in the future and we've somehow designed intertia dampners and seatbelts into these amazing spaceships we fly so we avoid becoming space pancakes...

mmm....pancakes...

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
Hawelt
Warpspeed Shipping Inc.
#4 - 2013-09-05 02:45:13 UTC
Droidster wrote:


Anyway, my recommendation would be to remain in the CENTER of the vessel if you are traveling on a Catalyst.


Either warp drives avoid such problems entirely or they required some technology to allow your whole ship to accelerate at a couple of AU/s^2 safely.

After a couple of seconds slowly getting into warp especially interceptors get some ludicrous acceleration to the point where it can get difficult to place a bookmark in the middle during a 2-5 AU warp.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#5 - 2013-09-05 02:47:43 UTC
Pods.

Strippers.

Enough said.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Posting From Underbridge
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-09-05 03:21:47 UTC
The 7G limit is only in a low density medium like air.
If you're floating in goop with the same density as your body (and your lungs filled with the same goop) then it's much higher.
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#7 - 2013-09-05 03:27:19 UTC
Droidster wrote:
At 250 g's deceleration your brains would probably be coming out of your nose.
... and nothing of value was lost.

Who put the goat in there?
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-09-05 03:29:34 UTC
Posting From Underbridge wrote:
The 7G limit is only in a low density medium like air.
If you're floating in goop with the same density as your body (and your lungs filled with the same goop) then it's much higher.


Goop makes no difference. The blackout is caused by blood circulation being interrupted because the blood is forced against turns in blood vessels in the brain.
Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2013-09-05 03:33:40 UTC
I take Prozac to stop my brain from shooting out of my head...
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-09-05 03:37:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Caviar Liberta
Posting From Underbridge wrote:
The 7G limit is only in a low density medium like air.
If you're floating in goop with the same density as your body (and your lungs filled with the same goop) then it's much higher.


This is for us pod pilots in the pod suspension of course. But those that are walking around on the ship I will do a little hand waving here.

If there isn't inertia compensation then lets say a localized field is generated that makes the apparent mass of those on board reduce greatly. So as you exceed what would normally be unsafe g-forces would have little effect on your reduced apparent mass.

Then of course the crew could have a very advanced version of this on the ships.

G-Suit
Posting From Underbridge
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-09-05 03:59:48 UTC
Droidster wrote:


Goop makes no difference. The blackout is caused by blood circulation being interrupted because the blood is forced against turns in blood vessels in the brain.


Try again.
Why do you think G-suits work?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2013-09-05 04:02:31 UTC
Space is a liquid therefore G-forces do not apply.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-09-05 04:35:40 UTC
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-09-05 04:41:22 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Space is a liquid therefore G-forces do not apply.


This^

I like how you apply the forces of gravity when there is no gravity.
Lord Azeroth
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-09-05 04:49:47 UTC
Tara Read wrote:
I take Prozac to stop my brain from shooting out of my head...


Has it worked ?
Posting From Underbridge
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-09-05 04:52:01 UTC
Donbe Scurred wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Space is a liquid therefore G-forces do not apply.


This^

I like how you apply the forces of gravity when there is no gravity.


I seem to have missed an opportunity here. My hats off to you both.
Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-09-05 04:59:08 UTC
It's an interesting question, and one of the key arguments against there being any crew in your ships.

If your pod was in the center of rotation of the ship and noone else was on board then it would be fine, structural integrity notwithstanding.

If you press the die-hard ship crew believers on this, they'll eventually end up going "Technomagic! I win!". It's a pickle, for sure.

The beatings will continue until posting improves. -Magnus Cortex

Official Eve Online changelist: Togglable PvP. - Jordanna Bauer
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-09-05 05:10:47 UTC
V-I-D-E-O-G-A-M-E
Mr Pragmatic
#19 - 2013-09-05 05:18:06 UTC
OVER 9000!

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.
Posting From Underbridge
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-09-05 05:25:32 UTC
Sir Substance wrote:
crew


Crew? In my ship?
It's more likely than you think!
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