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Star Trek: Into Darkness or Dear JJ Abrams, please stop making Star Trek movies **spoiler alert**
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#21 - 2013-09-04 11:36:18 UTC
Baby ChuChu wrote:
Major things happen, they dwell on it for a sec then BOOM, something else major goes down. Like, 3-4 pretty big things happen within that period and they seem to gloss over them at an alarming speed.



This was an issue with almost every single blockbuster release this summer. The whole industry is in a really sad state.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#22 - 2013-09-04 11:48:30 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
This was an issue with almost every single blockbuster release this summer. The whole industry is in a really sad state.


True that... good thing there are still movies like Cloud Atlas, Elysium and Gravity... sure, they are pretty heavy on the effects too, but alteast those are still "special", if you get my meaning. Blink

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kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-09-04 12:54:36 UTC
Aah well it was a good action movie... Cloud Atlas was terrible, I guess some of the action was ok but seriously worst story ever... Elysium was also a good action movie.

Haven't watched gravity yet
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#24 - 2013-09-04 13:06:57 UTC
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
Aah well it was a good action movie... Cloud Atlas was terrible, I guess some of the action was ok but seriously worst story ever... Elysium was also a good action movie.

Haven't watched gravity yet



What was so terrible about the story of Cloud Atlas ?

I didn't think so at all. In fact, for the kind of film it is, the story is irrelevant. That's like looking to 2001 for 'story'.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#25 - 2013-09-04 13:09:57 UTC
...and there we go again: Cloud Atlas was terrible... not I THINK it was terrible... ah well. Blink

I think it was a piece of art, on par with 2001 and Bladerunner.

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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-09-04 13:54:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Baby ChuChu wrote:
Major things happen, they dwell on it for a sec then BOOM, something else major goes down. Like, 3-4 pretty big things happen within that period and they seem to gloss over them at an alarming speed.



This was an issue with almost every single blockbuster release this summer. The whole industry is in a really sad state.


It's been a problem for sci fi for a while lately. There's no real story anymore. What makes a good sci fi movie, imo, is one that makes me wonder and think about the possibilities instead of plausibility. What we're getting are movies where the action is being shoved down our throats like we're foie gras ducks. Character development is almost non-existent. The same is true for any of the science inside the fiction.

Even Prometheus failed to achieve what I would consider good science fiction. While it was a fantastical display of eye candy and they introduced some wonder as they examined the Engineers, it left the viewer with far too many questions depending far too heavily on the movies it's attempting to explain.

In the past few years I guess I would have to say Sunshine by far was one of the best sci fi movies I've seen. It provided the wonder and the action with some cool science behind it that allows enough plausibility that I'm not having to swallow my disbelief to keep it down.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#27 - 2013-09-04 14:05:25 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Baby ChuChu wrote:
Major things happen, they dwell on it for a sec then BOOM, something else major goes down. Like, 3-4 pretty big things happen within that period and they seem to gloss over them at an alarming speed.



This was an issue with almost every single blockbuster release this summer. The whole industry is in a really sad state.


What we're getting are movies where the action is being shoved down our throats like we're foie gras ducks.

Even Prometheus failed to achieve what I would consider good science fiction. While it was a fantastical display of eye candy and they introduced some wonder as they examined the Engineers, it left the viewer with far too many questions depending far too heavily on the movies it's attempting to explain.



Indeed it's like those ducks. "Prometheus" although a beautiful film, really flubbed on the science issues for sure. But it thankfully wasn't just a blur of non-stop action, so I have to give it some credit there. But all in all a disappointment.

The accountants and executives working in that industry do not care about film, do not care about film history, and have no interest in such at all. To them it's all about product and the ultimate bottom line as extracted by formula and democraphic number crunching.

And it's all failing them oh so terribly this summer. Failing utterly. Nobody was impressed by a thing.

The only honest film was "Despicable Me 2". It did not lie about itself and delivered exactly what was promised. There is nothing wrong with silly for silly's sake.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#28 - 2013-09-04 17:54:22 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Tollen Gallen wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
J.J Abrams makes me almost want to forgive George Lucas for Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.




NEVER!!!!


Did'nt mind into the darkness, i quite like Benedict Cumberbatch, good as Holmes... 3rd series starting soon i think.


I knew it! Someone would take the bait. YOU NERD! Lol



I grew up with the first 3... the abominations you mentioned... are the very reason the world is in the state it is today... imho.

And you only get away with the mere thought of forgiving Lucas for them, because your avatar puts the Grr back into Dark, cold and broody!

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#29 - 2013-09-04 17:57:41 UTC
Tollen Gallen wrote:


I grew up with the first 3... the abominations you mentioned... are the very reason the world is in the state it is today... imho.



Actually this is traceable to the original "A New Hope".......and actually back further to "Jaws" and "The Exorcist" if one wants to get technical.

All good things contain consequences.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#30 - 2013-09-04 18:05:19 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Tollen Gallen wrote:


I grew up with the first 3... the abominations you mentioned... are the very reason the world is in the state it is today... imho.



Actually this is traceable to the original "friday the 13th".......and actually back further to "Jaws" and "The Exorcist" if one wants to get technical.

All good things contain consequences.



fixed that for ya.... dont make me do that again!



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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#31 - 2013-09-04 18:35:28 UTC
Welp, "A New Hope" utterly changed the kinds of movies that get made.

And introduced the idea of hugely massive merchandising.

The idea of the Summer Blockbuster did not even exist before "Star Wars".

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2013-09-04 18:46:13 UTC
And dinosaur movies sucked before Jurassic park.

Good god it came out 20 years ago...
Alara IonStorm
#33 - 2013-09-04 18:57:22 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
And dinosaur movies sucked before Jurassic park.

...and after. Sad

God that was a good movie.
Reiisha
#34 - 2013-09-04 20:41:10 UTC
It's too bad. The movie would have been absolutely epic if it completely trashed expectations and made Khan a powerful and honorable new ally.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Just Lilly
#35 - 2013-09-04 22:53:30 UTC
I gave the Movie a 8/10

Sure there was alot of facepalm moments, but in general it was a very good movie.

Knowing the original plotline about Khan, I have to say I enjoyed this version more.

And you know that the guy will return...Blink
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#36 - 2013-09-04 23:07:56 UTC
Just Lilly wrote:
... but in general it was a very good movie.

Knowing the original plotline about Khan, I have to say I enjoyed this version more.

And you know that the guy will return...Blink


First off: your name !!! I find it disturbing ! It's an anagramm for "Lusty Jill" ...

Both J.J. movies are actually quite good modern action movies. J.J. and his team butchered the original, but hey: without those movies the Star Trek franchise would be dead by now.

The one thing that is above all criticism, is the actors.

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Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
#37 - 2013-09-07 11:19:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Baby ChuChu
I love these guys.

Their ability to pick apart movies is pretty fascinating. it's also freaking hilarious. lol
Mr Pragmatic
#38 - 2013-09-07 13:11:15 UTC
HTFU...for star trek.

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Tanesha Kring
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2013-09-07 13:21:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanesha Kring
Baby ChuChu wrote:
I love these guys.

Their ability to pick apart movies is pretty fascinating. it's also freaking hilarious. lol


A pretty spot on review and discourse of the state of the film industry in general. Not to mention entertaining.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#40 - 2013-09-07 15:14:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Tanesha Kring wrote:
Baby ChuChu wrote:
I love these guys.

Their ability to pick apart movies is pretty fascinating. it's also freaking hilarious. lol


A pretty spot on review and discourse of the state of the film industry in general. Not to mention entertaining.



Don't miss Mr. Plinckett's review of "The Phantom Menace" for more accurate observations about both that film and the state of the industry.

It's in 7 parts. Hilarious. And thorough.


edit: Link

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
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