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Fund Raising Drive For the Guy That Was Scammed By Erotica1

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Grevy Kiosk
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-09-03 11:45:01 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
The thread was locked and I'd prefer that the act was not discussed in this thread however I'm going to donate 1 billion isk to this guy.

Why? Because I think not all EvE players are like that, or even most EvE players are like that and even though I personally will lock down a newb, blow his ship up and pod him if I have the opportunity, its more just an impersonal thing and part of the game.

If you want to donate some isk to the guy do so and post what you donated here. Hopefully we can get up to 7 billion like he was promised.

Thank you.


its donating to the guy himself , i like to know who that guy is , reaching almost 50bil and like to donate something too him
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-09-03 11:46:40 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I like Major's idea. Tell you what, Ziona. Post a video of yourself singing Paparazzi by Lady Gaga on YouTube and I'll give you the full 7 billion. Seriously, if you want my money, you've got to work for it.


A better song would be a flash back to the 90's: Bjork - Human Behaviour
Louise Beethoven
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-09-03 11:46:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Louise Beethoven
It's me I'm the scammed guy

Send your ISK to me, thanks
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-09-03 11:53:54 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I like Major's idea. Tell you what, Ziona. Post a video of yourself singing Paparazzi by Lady Gaga on YouTube and I'll give you the full 7 billion. Seriously, if you want my money, you've got to work for it.


A better song would be a flash back to the 90's: Bjork - Human Behaviour


This is a great point. In fact, if the OP sings it in Icelandic, I'll make the donation 14 bil isk.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#25 - 2013-09-03 11:57:01 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I like Major's idea. Tell you what, Ziona. Post a video of yourself singing Paparazzi by Lady Gaga on YouTube and I'll give you the full 7 billion. Seriously, if you want my money, you've got to work for it.


A better song would be a flash back to the 90's: Bjork - Human Behaviour


This is a great point. In fact, if the OP sings it in Icelandic, I'll make the donation 14 bil isk.

I'll match this if he writes Erotica's name across his chest and posts a pic.

Oh god.
Tron 3K
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-09-03 12:00:07 UTC
I'm a poor sucker that has been scammed by Erotica 1 too! I need free isk to get my shop going and producing wonderful products for you all Sad
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2013-09-03 12:02:26 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I like Major's idea. Tell you what, Ziona. Post a video of yourself singing Paparazzi by Lady Gaga on YouTube and I'll give you the full 7 billion. Seriously, if you want my money, you've got to work for it.

Deposit it with Chribba, once I get confirmation I'll post the video... I love singing.


Video first, then money. This is pretty non-negotiable.

Then unfortunately, we're at an impasse.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2013-09-03 12:04:46 UTC
The guy involved is very embarrassed by all this and would rather you stopped drawing attention to it. If you feel you must send him isk send it to me and i will forward it (please mark reason so i know why). otherwise he requests this topic be ended.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#29 - 2013-09-03 12:13:27 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I like Major's idea. Tell you what, Ziona. Post a video of yourself singing Paparazzi by Lady Gaga on YouTube and I'll give you the full 7 billion. Seriously, if you want my money, you've got to work for it.

Deposit it with Chribba, once I get confirmation I'll post the video... I love singing.


Video first, then money. This is pretty non-negotiable.

Chribba is a trusted third party. Giving your money to him in exchange for he video is safe.
If you are refusing to arrange a third party holding with Chribba, then you were not really as "serious" as you made out. So either you cough up the dough, give it the Chribba, and you two agree terms, or Ziona has won the forum war with you by default.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2013-09-03 12:19:42 UTC
To be honest, if any fundraisers are to be organized it's best to take them to Chribba. The only actually trustworthy party in our little Mad Max-esque land of psychotic murderers and thieves. It's like the rules of bartertown, non-negotiable - Chribba runs the cash and no-one else.

(Not that I approve, being one of those "survival of the fittest" jerks but blame it on my childhood or whatever.)

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-09-03 12:21:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
EDIT: Dear CCP, please fix the edit button. Occasionally when I use it, it double posts me.

Thank you.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-09-03 12:22:42 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I like Major's idea. Tell you what, Ziona. Post a video of yourself singing Paparazzi by Lady Gaga on YouTube and I'll give you the full 7 billion. Seriously, if you want my money, you've got to work for it.

Deposit it with Chribba, once I get confirmation I'll post the video... I love singing.


Video first, then money. This is pretty non-negotiable.

Chribba is a trusted third party. Giving your money to him in exchange for he video is safe.
If you are refusing to arrange a third party holding with Chribba, then you were not really as "serious" as you made out. So either you cough up the dough, give it the Chribba, and you two agree terms, or Ziona has won the forum war with you by default.


Entertainment first, donation second. As I've already stated, I'm not too keen on parting with any of my isk if it is going to someone who is demonstrably bad at holding onto it. I don't care how trustworthy the third party is, btw, I don't do middlemen. That's my prerogative. If you translate that to mean I'm not serious, than that's your prerogative, but I do note how easily you concoct false meaning from things without having all the information you really need to establish it conclusively.

I established terms already. As it is my money I'll be parting with, it only seems reasonable that any deal is on my terms. Frankly, I'm happy to keep the money. I stated they are non-negotiable, and that's how they'll remain. How serious I am will be revealed if a video is linked in this forum of the OP doing as requested. Until then, you have no evidence of how serious I am until you see the results.

Additionally, I don't care about who 'wins' some silly forum war, because I'm not even fighting one, so if there was a forum war than she wins by default. I can only assume that not only are you willing to hastily jump to conclusions based on information that you do not have, but you frequently see things that do not exist, or read too deeply into things that should be taken at face value. Since the words I use are chosen very carefully in every post and intended entirely at face value, you have to understand that to me, you come across as quite paranoid and delusional, which means until you can demonstrate otherwise, I'm simply never going to consider you authoritative enough to dictate my terms or how serious I am about an arrangement.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Morihei Akachi
Doomheim
#33 - 2013-09-03 12:25:01 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I like Major's idea. Tell you what, Ziona. Post a video of yourself singing Paparazzi by Lady Gaga on YouTube and I'll give you the full 7 billion. Seriously, if you want my money, you've got to work for it.

Deposit it with Chribba, once I get confirmation I'll post the video... I love singing.


Video first, then money. This is pretty non-negotiable.

Chribba is a trusted third party. Giving your money to him in exchange for he video is safe.
If you are refusing to arrange a third party holding with Chribba, then you were not really as "serious" as you made out. So either you cough up the dough, give it the Chribba, and you two agree terms, or Ziona has won the forum war with you by default.


Entertainment first, donation second. As I've already stated, I'm not too keen on parting with any some of isk if it is going to someone who is demonstrably bad at holding onto it. I don't care how trustworthy the third party is, btw, I don't do middlemen. That's my prerogative. If you translate that to mean I'm not serious, than that's your prerogative, but I do note how easily you concoct false meaning from things without having all the information you really need to establish it conclusively.

I established terms already. As it is my money I'll be parting with, it only seems reasonable that any deal is on my terms. Frankly, I'm happy to keep the money. I stated they are non-negotiable, and that's how they'll remain. How serious I am will be revealed if a video is linked in this forum of the OP doing as requested. Until then, you have no evidence of how serious I am until you see the results.

Additionally, I don't care about who 'wins' some silly forum war, because I'm not even fighting one, so if there was a forum war than she wins by default. I can only assume that not only are you willing to hastily jump to conclusions based on information that you do not have, but you frequently see things that do not exist, or read too deeply into things that should be taken at face value. Since the words I use are chosen very carefully in every post and intended entirely at face value, you have to understand that to me, you come across as quite paranoid and delusional, which means until you can demonstrate otherwise, I'm simply never going to consider you authoritative enough to dictate my terms or how serious I am about an arrangement.

Lost. Cool

"Enduring", "restrained" and "ample" as designations for starship components are foreign to the genre of high-tech science fiction and don’t belong in Eve Online. (And as for “scoped” …)
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-09-03 12:27:11 UTC
You can't get scammed by Erotica1. She is one of the most honest and trusted individuals I have ever encountered. Of course, if you are telling her lies, try to withhold vital information or outright try to scam her by not following rules, you are out of luck - and rightfully so. We should all thank Erotica1 for trying to to make Eve a safer place!
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#35 - 2013-09-03 12:27:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Boom Boom Longtime
Being a good Samaritan, if you send me the amount you were going to send the victim with the reason "Help Aid" in the description, then I will match this amount and dispatch the combined figure to the aforementioned party in a timely manner.

Concord Approved Trader
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
#36 - 2013-09-03 12:27:57 UTC
Yes, let's all reward stupidity... Straight


smh
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#37 - 2013-09-03 12:33:18 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
I like Major's idea. Tell you what, Ziona. Post a video of yourself singing Paparazzi by Lady Gaga on YouTube and I'll give you the full 7 billion. Seriously, if you want my money, you've got to work for it.

Deposit it with Chribba, once I get confirmation I'll post the video... I love singing.


Video first, then money. This is pretty non-negotiable.

Chribba is a trusted third party. Giving your money to him in exchange for he video is safe.
If you are refusing to arrange a third party holding with Chribba, then you were not really as "serious" as you made out. So either you cough up the dough, give it the Chribba, and you two agree terms, or Ziona has won the forum war with you by default.


Entertainment first, donation second. As I've already stated, I'm not too keen on parting with any of my isk if it is going to someone who is demonstrably bad at holding onto it. I don't care how trustworthy the third party is, btw, I don't do middlemen. That's my prerogative. If you translate that to mean I'm not serious, than that's your prerogative, but I do note how easily you concoct false meaning from things without having all the information you really need to establish it conclusively.

I established terms already. As it is my money I'll be parting with, it only seems reasonable that any deal is on my terms. Frankly, I'm happy to keep the money. I stated they are non-negotiable, and that's how they'll remain. How serious I am will be revealed if a video is linked in this forum of the OP doing as requested. Until then, you have no evidence of how serious I am until you see the results.

Additionally, I don't care about who 'wins' some silly forum war, because I'm not even fighting one, so if there was a forum war than she wins by default. I can only assume that not only are you willing to hastily jump to conclusions based on information that you do not have, but you frequently see things that do not exist, or read too deeply into things that should be taken at face value. Since the words I use are chosen very carefully in every post and intended entirely at face value, you have to understand that to me, you come across as quite paranoid and delusional, which means until you can demonstrate otherwise, I'm simply never going to consider you authoritative enough to dictate my terms or how serious I am about an arrangement.

Chribba is safer than leaving the isk in your own wallet.
And the reason third parties exist, is because once a vid is released, there's no way to take it back, so if you then refused to pay, Ziona is out of pocket. By paying to a third party, both sides are protected. No vid, you get your cash back. Same way you trade a titan. Simples.

If you choose not to do this, it's because you were never going to pay up, and thus not serious. Regardless of what you say to the contrary.

So either sort out your third party contract, or go back under your bridge.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-09-03 12:38:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Lucas Kell wrote:

Chribba is safer than leaving the isk in your own wallet.


Citation needed. I don't see how voluntarily handing my money over for a service not provided makes my isk safer than keeping it.

Quote:

If you choose not to do this, it's because you were never going to pay up, and thus not serious. Regardless of what you say to the contrary.


Citation needed. What evidence exactly do you have on me to prove that I have no intention of paying just by virtue of being skeptical about using a third party? All you have is circumstance and paranoia.

Quote:

So either sort out your third party contract, or go back under your bridge.


Citation needed. You also have no evidence that I came out from under a bridge.

EDIT: A little lesson about evidence.

A lack of evidence that I intend to pay is not evidence that I don't intend to pay.

Keep that in mind before you make your next rebuttal, because I quite happily acknowledge that I haven't provided any evidence that I intend to pay. Likewise, the OP has provided no evidence that (s)he intends to pass any proceeds on to the intended recipient.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2013-09-03 12:45:55 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Citation needed. You also have no evidence that I came out from under a bridge.

O RLY?

Evidence

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-09-03 12:53:18 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Citation needed. You also have no evidence that I came out from under a bridge.

O RLY?

Evidence


That looks nothing like me.

My eye isn't that big.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104