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Mars One - anyone sign up?

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#1 - 2013-09-02 18:39:11 UTC
Really, I'm hoping you all are too smart for that. An ambitious plan yes, but for the people going it's essentially a death sentence.

If they had planned a Lunar Mission, where we could conceivably retrieve the colonists in time, or as needed, then I wouldn't see it as being so arrogant, but as is, it really is a one way trip that is a tragedy in inception.

Basically, they plan on recruiting a bunch of people, training them for 7 years, then launching them on a one-way trip to Mars, (no relation), where they will find themselves some nice little capsule to live in for the rest of their lives. It's a 7 month trip, 4 people per craft, and some may not even survive the journey there.

Once stuck on that little red planet, they will have to construct the primary portion of their habitat by linking the pods, (think the capsule that was used to land on the moon, with slightly more room), together with short tunnels and make themselves comfortable. A lander designed after the Mars Rover will construct parts of the colony before their arrival, which will involve laying out some solar panels and cables if I don't miss my guess.

All said and done, they will be confined to these pods and relying on shipments of food and water until they go crazy, kill each other, commit suicide, or otherwise die of natural or unnatural causes in a recorded-for posterity-environment.

Let me reiterate:

No trees, no lakes, no walking around outside without a space suit; Just a confined space with a bunch of people eating freeze dried foods in a low-G environment while their bodies slowly deteriorate. No doctors, nurses, engineers, or care of any kind unless someone who happened to be selected has those skills.

The psychological ramifications on the Human mind under those conditions doesn't have to be guessed at. Not entirely anyway, but someone will be observing from far away and watching as they one-by-one snap, break down, or slowly lose rational control over their actions. All with no ability to lend assistance of any kind, and likely no desire on the part of the people sending them.

Rats in a lab. A distant prison where the inmates are volunteers. Call it what you will, but it's not in any way progress.

Just my opinion of course.
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Jill Xelitras
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#2 - 2013-09-02 18:52:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jill Xelitras
quoting from wikipedia:

Quote:
By 2022 the first Mars One team, consisting of four carefully selected applicants, will be launched where they will become the first expected residents of the Red Planet in 2023.



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#3 - 2013-09-02 18:58:36 UTC
Dear god no. Extraterrestrial reality TV series where you're coupled with 7 other people that you will spend the rest of your natural life with in what amounts to a couple of TAB teardrop camp trailers, and no hope of returning if things go wrong (with you bunk mates or the station).

I'm on on board with Elon Musk' idea of building Biodomes that can hold far more people and will withstand little things like the several month long dust storms that Mars get (although I bet that will be a HI-larious portion of that show). Plus the fact that he and my capstone group pretty much thought of the same thing including the delivery system. I would love to show him the rest of our MTM project.

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Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-09-02 19:43:37 UTC
While it would be cool to be a pioneer or sorts and be on another planet(!) there's no way I'm leaving all the food, drink and other pleasures of earth behind me. No way.

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#5 - 2013-09-02 20:06:36 UTC
Mars One scores very high in "scam" and "crackpotery".

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it is not real.
It is crackpotery.
It is a scam.

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Jane Schereau
#6 - 2013-09-02 22:59:31 UTC
Had it not been for the reality TV deal, it would have been appealing. After all, its science!

That said, I am excited for the project. Seeing how no-one has bothered with a plan to go and return, this will be good enough to keep me entertained.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-09-02 23:37:34 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
Really, I'm hoping you all are too smart for that. An ambitious plan yes, but for the people going it's essentially a death sentence.

If they had planned a Lunar Mission, where we could conceivably retrieve the colonists in time, or as needed, then I wouldn't see it as being so arrogant, but as is, it really is a one way trip that is a tragedy in inception.

Basically, they plan on recruiting a bunch of people, training them for 7 years, then launching them on a one-way trip to Mars, (no relation), where they will find themselves some nice little capsule to live in for the rest of their lives. It's a 7 month trip, 4 people per craft, and some may not even survive the journey there.

Once stuck on that little red planet, they will have to construct the primary portion of their habitat by linking the pods, (think the capsule that was used to land on the moon, with slightly more room), together with short tunnels and make themselves comfortable. A lander designed after the Mars Rover will construct parts of the colony before their arrival, which will involve laying out some solar panels and cables if I don't miss my guess.

All said and done, they will be confined to these pods and relying on shipments of food and water until they go crazy, kill each other, commit suicide, or otherwise die of natural or unnatural causes in a recorded-for posterity-environment.

Let me reiterate:

No trees, no lakes, no walking around outside without a space suit; Just a confined space with a bunch of people eating freeze dried foods in a low-G environment while their bodies slowly deteriorate. No doctors, nurses, engineers, or care of any kind unless someone who happened to be selected has those skills.

The psychological ramifications on the Human mind under those conditions doesn't have to be guessed at. Not entirely anyway, but someone will be observing from far away and watching as they one-by-one snap, break down, or slowly lose rational control over their actions. All with no ability to lend assistance of any kind, and likely no desire on the part of the people sending them.

Rats in a lab. A distant prison where the inmates are volunteers. Call it what you will, but it's not in any way progress.

Just my opinion of course.


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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-09-03 06:15:39 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
It's a carefully planned out scheme to rid the world of some of the stupidest people in the world Pirate


To the person who came up with such a scheme, I'd like to say thanks. And please look for your recruitments in Jersey first, for maximum impact.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#9 - 2013-09-03 06:20:15 UTC
Last I saw they had 165K + applicants. Application closed Aug. 31 too, so they won't be getting any more if they stick to that. They were looking for a pool up to 500K, but I guess not that many people are willing to throw their lives away for that. Smile
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Alpheias
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Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2013-09-03 12:19:51 UTC
If this actually achieves lift-off (pun intended) I'll be glued to the TV for all the drama that will unfold. In Space.

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Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-09-03 21:48:34 UTC
I think it is interesting and the free market getting into this industry is NOT a bad thing. People have wasted their lives for far more stupid causes. At the end of the day it could prove to be quite informative and worst case mildly entertaining. Progress starts as mini steps and these are the mini steps we need to take before full out building space colonies.

I for one am excited by the possibility that I will see our race prosper off our planet. I can only imagine what my boys will see in theirs.
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-09-04 04:59:53 UTC
Who wants to bet that if they succeed and also Elon Musks venture is a success. They tell the producers to f themselves and decamp to the bigger colony?

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Jade III
Sebiestor Tribe
#13 - 2013-09-04 14:04:41 UTC
I know that this is a scam, but wouldn't there be a house built on it already? We could take all the prisoners that are sentenced for life to Mars so that our jails wouldn't be so filled up.

Also, the reality T.V. show probably NCIS: Mars. It would only last 4 episodes.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-09-04 14:19:19 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
If this actually achieves lift-off (pun intended) I'll be glued to the TV for all the drama that will unfold. In Space.


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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#15 - 2013-09-04 14:28:42 UTC
They'll just need to separate those single beds again before the cameras turn on. Lol

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#16 - 2013-09-05 03:01:59 UTC
Mac Munoz wrote:
I think it is interesting and the free market getting into this industry is NOT a bad thing. People have wasted their lives for far more stupid causes. At the end of the day it could prove to be quite informative and worst case mildly entertaining. Progress starts as mini steps and these are the mini steps we need to take before full out building space colonies.

I for one am excited by the possibility that I will see our race prosper off our planet. I can only imagine what my boys will see in theirs.


I wouldn't call this a mini-step. A mini-step would be calling it Lunar One and developing a colony on the Moon, where you could conceivably send out and retrieve colonists, supplies, and waste in a much more productive and efficient fashion.

Testing spaceflight and its effects on crew could be done by sending people out on trips around the moon, or having them follow the Earth in its orbit while circling the earth outside the moons orbit.
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