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Primae oute of date.make it a tec 2,miner explorer,salvager
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blue dehazon
Stonegard Arrows
#1 - 2013-09-01 14:19:19 UTC  |  Edited by: blue dehazon
make it an tec 2 of the Noctis,whid 5 hige slot hard points and +1 hige.4 mid slot and 4 low,whid low sig radius and good agilety .warp strength 2 build in,scan bonus,virus bonus,tractor beam rang 30km so it cant compite whid the noctis as a salvager.cargo bay1000m3,Ore hold max 15k m3,drone band whide 100,drone capacity 75.Structure hitpoints 1200.Armore hp 3600.Shield hp 2400.no mining bonus on this ship but it shud be abel to juse all mining lasers,no cargo bonus.(hige slots shud not allowe wepon fitted).2 of the hige slots for mining lasar-turret hard points.
Goti fase
Faulcon de Lazy
#2 - 2013-09-01 14:44:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Goti fase
My brain hurts trying to understand that.

Anyway, no because the Primae is a special edition ship. It was never meant to be able to full fill any specific roll.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2013-09-01 14:51:57 UTC
TL:DR

Make this free ship everyone was given into quite literally the best exploration ship in the game, with a side role of being a hauler, drone boat and miner, and on top of that, make it invulnerable in lowsec
blue dehazon
Stonegard Arrows
#4 - 2013-09-01 14:56:28 UTC  |  Edited by: blue dehazon
Goti fase wrote:
My brain hurts trying to understand that.

Anyway, no because the Primae is a special edition ship. It was never meant to be able to full fill any specific roll.

It was made for PI
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-09-01 15:01:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobias Hareka
blue dehazon wrote:
make it an tec 2 of the Noctis,whid 5 hige slot hard points and +1 hige.4 mid slot and 4 low,whid low sig radius and good agilety .warp strength 2 build in,scan bonus,virus bonus,tractor beam rang 30km so it cant compite whid the noctis as a salvager.cargo bay1000m3,Ore hold max 15m3,drone band whide 100,drone capacity 50.Structure hitpoints 1200.Armore hp 3600.Shield hp 2400.no mining bonus on this ship but it shud be abel to juse all mining lasers,no cargo bonus.(hige slots shud not allowe wepon like turrets laser to be fitted).


It wouldn't be used for mining because that 15 m3 ore bay is useless. It couldn't even use mining lasers because mining lasers need turret hardpoints. 100 Mbit/s bandwidth would be useless because of that small drone bay. You could only use half of that bandwidth.
blue dehazon
Stonegard Arrows
#6 - 2013-09-01 15:06:57 UTC
Tobias Hareka wrote:
blue dehazon wrote:
make it an tec 2 of the Noctis,whid 5 hige slot hard points and +1 hige.4 mid slot and 4 low,whid low sig radius and good agilety .warp strength 2 build in,scan bonus,virus bonus,tractor beam rang 30km so it cant compite whid the noctis as a salvager.cargo bay1000m3,Ore hold max 15m3,drone band whide 100,drone capacity 50.Structure hitpoints 1200.Armore hp 3600.Shield hp 2400.no mining bonus on this ship but it shud be abel to juse all mining lasers,no cargo bonus.(hige slots shud not allowe wepon like turrets laser to be fitted).


It wouldn't be used for mining because that 15 m3 ore bay is useless. It couldn't even use mining lasers because mining lasers need turret hardpoints. 100 Mbit/s bandwidth would be useless because of that small drone bay. You could only use half of that bandwidth.

sorry about that ore hold.was thinking of 15k m3.hawe edited it ty.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#7 - 2013-09-01 17:18:51 UTC
Since the Primae was created to be the "PI Hauler" and that role is being overtaken by one of the newly rebalanced T1 industrials I think seeing it get a balance pass or re-purposing wouldn't be amiss.

But I won't be bent out of shape if it doesn't happen either. I own several and have flown them at most once or twice (not into PI so vOv)

I'm right behind you
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2013-09-01 17:21:15 UTC
Alundil wrote:
Since the Primae was created to be the "PI Hauler" and that role is being overtaken by one of the newly rebalanced T1 industrials I think seeing it get a balance pass or re-purposing wouldn't be amiss.

But I won't be bent out of shape if it doesn't happen either. I own several and have flown them at most once or twice (not into PI so vOv)



but T1 haulers have ALWAYS been better at PI than that thing. It was a free gift ship, the point is not for it to be good. The changes this guy wants turn it into a do everything better than anything else kind of thing.
blue dehazon
Stonegard Arrows
#9 - 2013-09-01 17:49:19 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Alundil wrote:
Since the Primae was created to be the "PI Hauler" and that role is being overtaken by one of the newly rebalanced T1 industrials I think seeing it get a balance pass or re-purposing wouldn't be amiss.

But I won't be bent out of shape if it doesn't happen either. I own several and have flown them at most once or twice (not into PI so vOv)



but T1 haulers have ALWAYS been better at PI than that thing. It was a free gift ship, the point is not for it to be good. The changes this guy wants turn it into a do everything better than anything else kind of thing.

is it so bad whid a explorer ship you dont hawe to dock to refit for every task,no mining bonus and the amount of bonus is open to peopol that knowe more of howe that works.And this is a features & ideas tread wher notthing is writen in stone.
Goti fase
Faulcon de Lazy
#10 - 2013-09-01 18:07:43 UTC
blue dehazon wrote:
Goti fase wrote:
My brain hurts trying to understand that.

Anyway, no because the Primae is a special edition ship. It was never meant to be able to full fill any specific roll.

It was made for PI


So use it for PI
Johnson Oramara
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-09-01 18:12:53 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Alundil wrote:
Since the Primae was created to be the "PI Hauler" and that role is being overtaken by one of the newly rebalanced T1 industrials I think seeing it get a balance pass or re-purposing wouldn't be amiss.

But I won't be bent out of shape if it doesn't happen either. I own several and have flown them at most once or twice (not into PI so vOv)



but T1 haulers have ALWAYS been better at PI than that thing. It was a free gift ship, the point is not for it to be good. The changes this guy wants turn it into a do everything better than anything else kind of thing.


Someone sure woke up with the wrong foot... aren't we here because we can discuss things to make some ideas better and not to just rant how something is like the worst thing ever?
blue dehazon
Stonegard Arrows
#12 - 2013-09-01 18:14:40 UTC
Goti fase wrote:
blue dehazon wrote:
Goti fase wrote:
My brain hurts trying to understand that.

Anyway, no because the Primae is a special edition ship. It was never meant to be able to full fill any specific roll.

It was made for PI


So use it for PI

they made iteron 4 for PI in new update 3-9-13.and the prima hawe newer been a good PI ship to smal cargo capasety.so the itheron hawe always been the best ship for PI
blue dehazon
Stonegard Arrows
#13 - 2013-09-01 18:16:39 UTC  |  Edited by: blue dehazon
Johnson Oramara wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Alundil wrote:
Since the Primae was created to be the "PI Hauler" and that role is being overtaken by one of the newly rebalanced T1 industrials I think seeing it get a balance pass or re-purposing wouldn't be amiss.

But I won't be bent out of shape if it doesn't happen either. I own several and have flown them at most once or twice (not into PI so vOv)



but T1 haulers have ALWAYS been better at PI than that thing. It was a free gift ship, the point is not for it to be good. The changes this guy wants turn it into a do everything better than anything else kind of thing.


Someone sure woke up with the wrong foot... aren't we here because we can discuss things to make some ideas better and not to just rant how something is like the worst thing ever?

TYBig smile and may reson to shose the prima as the hull for this ship and not the noctis is becose no won juse the Primae
hellcane
Never Back Down
#14 - 2013-09-01 18:17:59 UTC
I just want the primae color scheme on the noctis. It looks so much better
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#15 - 2013-09-01 18:53:05 UTC
Not supporting. With the exception of the Gnosis... every single free ship that was given to us by CCP has been pretty much overshadowed by (or has nothing making it different from) the "normal" ships in the game. They are "gimmick" ships.

Look at the Zephyr, Echelon, Apotheosis, any of the "special edition" frigates/destroyers, etc.

How did you Veterans start?
blue dehazon
Stonegard Arrows
#16 - 2013-09-01 19:29:23 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Not supporting. With the exception of the Gnosis... every single free ship that was given to us by CCP has been pretty much overshadowed by (or has nothing making it different from) the "normal" ships in the game. They are "gimmick" ships.

Look at the Zephyr, Echelon, Apotheosis, any of the "special edition" frigates/destroyers, etc.
I want this to be a ship you can manufacture whid a BPO that is way i is shud be a tec 2 noctis,any bonus on the ship shud reflect the cost to make it.it cant cost to mutch,but a lott more than a frig explorer ship,that waye it will be a choice betwin risk/profit to jusing it.as it is whid most ships
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2013-09-01 19:38:56 UTC
blue dehazon wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Not supporting. With the exception of the Gnosis... every single free ship that was given to us by CCP has been pretty much overshadowed by (or has nothing making it different from) the "normal" ships in the game. They are "gimmick" ships.

Look at the Zephyr, Echelon, Apotheosis, any of the "special edition" frigates/destroyers, etc.
I want this to be a ship you can manufacture whid a BPO that is way i is shud be a tec 2 noctis,any bonus on the ship shud reflect the cost to make it.it cant cost to mutch,but a lott more than a frig explorer ship,that waye it will be a choice betwin risk/profit to jusing it.as it is whid most ships



So you don't know how T2 production works either. And this has nothing to do with the existing primae, or would you turn all of them into this new T2 thing?

And define not too much? 200 mil? 500 mil? 1bil?
Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-09-01 20:08:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Ted
This hull sucks, always sucked, and is supposed to suck.

It is a free hangar ornament, an oddity, a lolwtf on your dscan. Something to get you mildly excited about PI.

Hell the Echelon doesn't even have bonuses anymore since hacking was revamped, and guess what, NOBODY CARES.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec.
blue dehazon
Stonegard Arrows
#19 - 2013-09-01 20:09:10 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
blue dehazon wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Not supporting. With the exception of the Gnosis... every single free ship that was given to us by CCP has been pretty much overshadowed by (or has nothing making it different from) the "normal" ships in the game. They are "gimmick" ships.

Look at the Zephyr, Echelon, Apotheosis, any of the "special edition" frigates/destroyers, etc.
I want this to be a ship you can manufacture whid a BPO that is way i is shud be a tec 2 noctis,any bonus on the ship shud reflect the cost to make it.it cant cost to mutch,but a lott more than a frig explorer ship,that waye it will be a choice betwin risk/profit to jusing it.as it is whid most ships



So you don't know how T2 production works either. And this has nothing to do with the existing primae, or would you turn all of them into this new T2 thing?

And define not too much? 200 mil? 500 mil? 1bil?

I cant se way you making replays hear so i wont bother to make enny more replays to you.
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#20 - 2013-09-01 21:39:28 UTC
Repurpose the Primae as a POS deployment ship.

  • Control tower bay (8,000 m3) <-- Large enough to take 1 large tower, 2 mediums, or 4 small
  • Fuel Block bay (9,600 m3) <-- 48 hours of fuel for a large tower
  • Strontium bay (28,800 m3) <-- 24 hours of RF time for a large tower
  • POS module bay (50,000 m3) <-- enough for CHA, SMA, basic defences
  • Ammo bay (5,000 m3) <-- enough ammo for gun/missile batteries, but doesn't come close to the new T1 ammo hauler

    • Putting up a POS made easy \o/

    Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
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