Warfare & Tactics

Normally yes, but not once they activate siege/triage mode.

Aren't they basically stuck for the duration of the siege/triage mod?

Yes. Although if you sit about waiting for them to end their cycle so you can point them you have to be pretty sharp (or constantly spamming your point) or hope they are stupid enough to not have an out-cyno ready.

Even then, if it's something like a triage carrier playing triage relay with another carrier, they can refit to all warp stabs a couple of seconds before their cycle ends and make your point effectively irrelevant.

Unsure which bit you don't understand, but here goes:

Capitals need a second ship with a cynosural field (or cyno for short) in fleet to jump to in order to move from system to system. They can do this the moment their siege cycle ends (providing they have enough capacitor to jump). Any competent capital pilot will make sure he has a cyno in a nearby system to jump to the moment his cycle ends. It's a simple contingency measure.

If you're clicking to activate your point every second (and getting the dialog box that says you can't because the dread is in siege), you'll manage to lock it on just as his cycle ends.

This works nicely, except in the case of a capital that has another carrier close by (2500m). Carriers have the ability to let ships refit their modules in space (either spare modules stored in their hold or in the carrier's corp hangar), a carrier that's in triage and is planning to escape can wait out most of it's cycle, then use another carrier's fitting service to swap out it's low slots for warp core stabilisers. This will basically mean it has +6 or +7 warp strength and fast point you try and lock on immediately as it's cycle ends will only reduce its warp strength by 1 or 2, so it can still jump out.

Snuffbox had 8ish dreads and a carrier on field the other day, so obviously i went in for tackle with my maulus.

Everything jumped out (after hilariously trying to track me) except the triage and the dread i had tackled. That dread refitted stabs off the carrier and jumped, at which point i tackled the archon.

Several minutes passed as i was bombarded with offers of help, but nothing materialised before snuff titan bridged 10ish AF, faction frigs and ceptors onto the pos they had sieging and i had to let go. Then they called me a coward for running, as per low sec etiquette.

1. A scrambler doesnt see anything.
2. Yes, a jump is immediate. The game checks in the moment the pilot clicks "jump" if the jump is legal. That means:
- Am I out off a Warp Disruption Sphere?
- Do I have enough Cap?
- Am I free of warp scramblers?
- If No, is my Warp Strenght still over 0?
If all answers are yes, ship jumps.

For you that means: You lose point on the carrier, because of triage. You know now, that you cant point the carrier for 5 minutes. Watch the clock, at the end of the 5 minutes click on your scram as often as you can (once per second is enough). If your scram reactivates the triage is over. If the Carrier still jumps, he had Warp core stabilizer fitted, countering your scram. A Scram does not activate by itself.

So if I'm understanding this correctly, carriers/dreads don't need to align before making a jump like normal ships?

So basically sending out a couple of dreads to take down a poco or tower in low sec could get very dangerous without sub cap support . If a couple of frigates happen to arrive with warp scrams they could hold down the dreads until the capital fleet arrives to finish the job. Is that correct?

cool, thanks for the help :)