EVE General Discussion

I'm content to see how it comes down. No need to write so many words.

Well written and far more true in my opinion then anything the CSM is regurgitating. Decisions have been made years ago regarding resource allocations and millions spent accordingly. A drop in subscribers because of EVE reaching then end of its perceived lifecycle or the appearance of another MMO in the same niche is part of these calculations. Resources for FiS are at the bare minimum where four database updates to change the warp speed of logistics take 6 months and that is not going to change. Less income from subscriptions would only lead to even more resources going away from a dying game to other projects.

Canceling your subscription would also help CCP shift hardware from EVE to WoD by taking servers out of the Tranquility cluster as lower player numbers take up less resources. This fits nicely with time dilution as they can get away with using even less servers for EVE for the remaining playerbase. So if we had X servers for 45.000 online players and this drops to 30.000 they can use 1/3 of the hardware for WoD and by implementing time dilution maye even half of it.

CCP lost the second they thought other games were more important then the one they had. End of story.

Like other companies in the past, they have brought themselves to the point of no return. Finish other crappy games there player base will not play out of spite, (cept the few mono weares that think it is some form of trolling-after spending rl cash to try and do so)

Look at AoC for example. they had Anarchy Online. Had a solid player base. so they gambled on what is now there flag ship game. I dear anyone to log in that game and see how long it takes to get a 6 vs 6 match, or find any open world pvp that dose not involve killing a lvl 50 with a lvl 80 before he logs never to return.

Look at funcoms forums, bet not one person from AOC will ever play TSW, cept the few that love to buy crap with rlm rather then earning it.

Not to mention the 1000000000000000000000000000 other problems Funcom has created with there games.

Any one every wonder why the companies. Like what CCP is becoming never have a lasting product after taking this dive. Box sales start to drive these companies. Not "excelance"

I feel so bad for the good devs left. they are about to be rail roaded.

Hope it dose not end like this, will always play eve till, I am the one logged in. Or miss the server closing while taking a break.

Woah. Did you just say guild?



And you assume that people should care who or what certain corporations are, I'm guessing, judging from the posted link, due to massive amounts of kills? Just like your over-inflated ego believes the average player should know who you are.

Please CCP, remove this fool from the chair that he holds and let someone who actually knows the game outside of Nullsec take his place.

Wait, I should rephrase that.

Let someone who has the interest of all players take his place. You know, a person that, while holding their own opinions, won't make suggestions that contradict the playstyle of thousands of other people, just to satisfy your own wants.

I'm not going to waste any effort on defending mitten's trolling, but if white tree is bound under a NDA to... err... Not Disclose something... then there has been an agreement to... Not Disclose things. Don't know how else to word that, ya know?

CCP's management gets to decide what they do and don't disclose... and ironically they get to decide what white tree can't disclose. Seeing a pattern?

ok right thread

why is it every time Mittani trolls my opinion of the CSM falls?
They really need to reign in his mouth lol
The CSM that talk and are helpful and stuff keep getting cut off at the knees every time he posts.
Unless ofc its as Mittens says an theyre really a united front and the bile Mittens talks is really what they think

Er, I was talking about the CSM White Tree. Guess I should've edited that quote.

JettO is pointing out that the CSM delegates that have posted in this thread seem to be expressing the same kind of attitude that they accuse CCP of. To put it ironically, he's remarking on tone, not substance.

Meryl is pointing out that you missed the thread where White Tree calls the playerbase nerds, not CCP.

I'm the one that was asking White Tree to inform me about what I was wrong about. White Tree invokes NDA. It's super effective.

Long post, with a lot of interesting topics, far to broad to reply to all at once, but the one that caught my attention was.



Actually their is substantial data already available thanks to various leaks at CCP that prove this to be very incorrect, quite to the contrary starting next month (October) CCP is already in over their heads and they will be unable to pay their loans without taking out more loans. WoD and Dust are two projects severly dependent on Eve Online for revenue because these projects where created and are being developed on borrowed money, so much of it that making the loan payments requires continued success and revenue from Eve to manage. More importantly is that DUST and WoD are very far off in terms of release, WoD's development has barely even got of the ground and DUST has been in the works since 2009 and they still have almost nothing to show us at all in terms of gameplay.

Eve is not only a central part of CCP's financial hopes, but a make it or break crutch. If Eve fails, the other two projects will collapse on their own weight and in fact you could say given that they are unable to pay their bills that they have already failed to manage the situation. Add to that the current economic plight world wide and the fact that DUST and WoD are both incredibly ambitious projects, coupled with a continued mishandling of their one and only source of cash and what you can is a pending disaster of epic proportions.

I think your analysis here is really off on this one.