Ships & Modules

I've noticed a few people have been talking about wanting their tier 3 BC's to have a tech 2 variant. This thread is just one I have created where we can all express our Idea's from the players point of view on what these particular ships should be capable of. Perhaps all races should have the same Identical capabilities, or perhaps each race should be Different? now the question is, what do you like? and what would you like to see you're self.

And please, for the sake of everybody constructive criticism only.

Anyway, let us see the other Idea's EVE players have. who knows, somebody might use one of these in a future patch, here is an example of how these should be written out:

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*For reference, this section is pure troll, and should only be used as an example of how idea's should be written up. I personally feel that tech 2 tier 3's are pointless and unnecessary, and many others seem to agree with me.*

Name: Albatross
Description: The albatross is a covert opps Attack Battlecruiser equipped with an onboard tracking system capable of locking onto targets while cloaked from over 100km away, as well as engaging targets while maintaining its cloak for a short time.

Traits
Caldari Battlecruiser skill bonus per level:
10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage
10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range

Role Bonus:
95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Hybrid Turrets
50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Hybrid Turrets
50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Hybrid Turrets
Can fit covert opps cloaking devices, cloaking delay reduced to 5 seconds, Able to covertley maintain target lock while cloaked, targets receive no indication of lock while vessel is cloaked.
Covert Battlecruiser skill bonus per level
Allow one additional cycle from hybrid turrets while cloaked up to a maximum of 5 before vessel becomes de-cloaked due to instability

Fitting 7H, 6M, 4L, 2R 6 turret Hard Points, 0 Missile Hard Points

Cpu: 425, PG: 875, CB, 400

All attributes are the same as the Naga, assides from the following:
Maximum targeting range: 100km
Shield DR’s:
EM: 0%
TH: 70%
KN: 62%
EX: 62%

Prerequisites:
• Covert Battlecruiser I
Caldari Battlecruisers V
• Cloaking V
• Long Range Targeting V
• Large Hybrid Turret V
• Evasive Maneuvers V
• Targeting V
• Gravimetric Sensors V

Notes on Extra's:
Notes on the "Firing while cloaked ability" in order to reset the cycle counter the ship must de-cloak and re-cloak, simply staying cloaked and stopping the cycles will not reset the cloak. The cloak will hold until the weapons fire off after their final shot based on cycles. for example:
Covert Battlecruiser I - one weapon cycle can be fired while cloaked, any additional decloaks the ship
Covert Battlecruiser II - Two weapon cycle can be fired while cloaked, any additional decloaks the ship
Covert Battlecruiser III -Three weapon cycle can be fired while cloaked, any additional decloaks the ship
Covert Battlecruiser IV - Four weapon cycle can be fired while cloaked, any additional decloaks the ship
Covert Battlecruiser V -Five weapon cycle can be fired while cloaked, any additional decloaks the... ship

Fleet composition and operation is essential with these ships for pvp. while you cannot see the ship, you can still see the shots fire from where it is after it fires, so interceptors can decloak these ships if they follow the patters. the sig radius on these BC's is the same as a normal BC so it would be easy to catch if it is decloaked. while versatile and somewhat overpowered, they are still somewhat balanced. these also make us "AFK" cloakers a little scarier.

If you have a better Idea, post it.

firing while cloaked.....yeah

and for future reference there's F&I

Alpha strike ships that fire when cloaked.

Which is balanced cause an interceptor that most certainly won't get popped burning straight towards your t2 nado can decloak it.





GingerMagician is that you?

My turn to try: all mining ships get a built in covert-ops cloak and can mine while cloaked. You can still see the mining lasers, so it's balanced because you can decloak the mining ships by flying close to them.

So a fleet of BCs can warp in, alpha 3 BSes and warp right out again without decloaking?

I won't simply say it's stupid; nothing gets taught by comments like that.

I will say that the concept is pretty horribly broken; what you're proposing is essentially an invisible, invincible alpha fleet with absolutely no counter. The alpha fleet doctrine is essentially one shot, one kill; once that's done, the fleet can warp off-grid, reset their cloaks, then use a covops as a warp-in point anywhere on the battle grid, in which case using an interceptor to home in on the shot graphics (which aren't always visible, especially when graphics are turned down for heavy fleet fights) is useless. There's a reason ships can't lock or fire while cloaked, and why they can't cloak while targeted; it would turn covops cloaks into pure game-breakers.

Like they said above, this is the sort of post that goes into Features & Ideas Discussion, but fair warning: people are going to pan it, and they're not going to be polite about it.

This is not well thought out. How could this be countered? It can't.

Oh lordy. I'm going to need a lot of popcorn for this one.

I hope this is a troll... I really, really do...

That seems low. They've already given up 12.5% of their base DPS because they had to drop a high to fit a cloak. Maybe it should be closer to a 60% damage increase while cloaked to compensate.