EVE General Discussion

So, to set a trap for gankers double wrap semi-empty containers and autopilot to Jita?

*mischievous giggle*

So I see you gave this a lot of thought.

Have a look at my gank profitability calculator. I made it back when peoples' heads were exploding over the new bounties, but it's still relevant. If you have no bounty, just keep that at 0. It stays accurate.

The ganker prices might be a bit out of date, though.

Here's some sample numbers for an Obelisk. Looks like the breaking point is around 2 billion ISK. Lower if a lot of people in cheap destroyers decide to ruin your day.

If you get ganked or otherwise get screwed over in EvE, just remember its a game and laugh about it.

As with a lot of things in high sec, the math is known. It isn't supposed to be but it is so you have to understand that you simply sit on that set of scales that is the equation and the risk is only how much it settles one way or the other. It is meant to be a little bit more romantic than that but it isn't, welcome to formula driven gameplay.
That does not exclude 'fun', the more acceptable gameplay where you might counter by double wrapping and the ganker takes a risk simply shooting at you; that can happen anyway or they can just shoot you for fun. In such cases you'll always have to accept that its a 'fair enough' loss but sometimes when you watch you do feel a lot like all you are seeing is math in action, a business from the outside world - I know its wrong to watch but I cant stop myself.
A blockade runner can be like wrapping gold in tissue paper, anyone curious can open them up without much effort. They are at least a ship you have to fly actively, align times etc. are what they are about but in high sec they can feel like flying Lemmings.
An Orca is okay, it could always be a battle Orca but it really isn't specified to be a general purpose hauler (as many of the industrials wont be soon). Its a huge leap up from the any other option at least and now a fairly quick train.

I don't think an isk value is possible, I only haul less than a billion, above 700m I glue my eye balls to the screen and that's something that only works well once. That doesn't stop anyone from doing anything, anyone who can balance the equation in their favour can, at any time, gank you. It is highly unlikely you will have sufficient corp mates to hand to counter in sufficient time, if at all - and it will take some time whilst you can do nothing about it which is probably when you write your 'high sec is pointless' thread.

I don't think that is wrong, my sell orders say destruction is good.

I think there is a market for a mid size general purpose freighter - re-skin the Orca for cheapness, simply make it twice the challenge to destroy so more than a single human being (a lonely boxer) is required.

So basically don't bother, sit on a Jita gate ganking blockade runners instead, you have the isk to make it profitable if you can afford a freighter.

Wormhole space is about 1/3 of the total systems in eve. Its also only accessible to maybe 5-7% of the eve population, and only a fraction of those are there on any regular basis. Not terribly well-utilized, IMO.

Orcas can be made three times as difficult to destroy using a single module.

My orca has a Damage Control, Reinforced Bulkheads and a 100mn microwarp drive

All to carry basically nothing.

Slight inaccuracy in your math here, 7 seconds is enough time to get off 3 volleys at which point Concord rollup in a 1.0 or 0.9. Last time I checked the major choke points used for freighter ganking are 0.6 systems, which gives you approximately 14 seconds to get off your volleys before Concord turn up. The Concord response can be delayed by a few seconds more by baiting them elsewhere in system.

Closer to 2 million, especially if you rig it.

Put in as many high valued items as you can, rename your freighter to "Gankers are Pussies"then AP between Amarr and Jita.

Much more fun