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Cunane Jeran
#41 - 2011-11-13 04:59:31 UTC
Two old jokes come to mind:

Quote:
Caldari
PvP
Solo

Pick two.


Caldari PvP isn't bad they have some great options but its also important to note, Minmatar/Amarr/Gallente can do it so much better in all but ewar, especially when solo or in small gangs.

Quote:
EvE has 5 difficulty settings: Insane, Hard, Medium, Easy and Caldari


It's easy to see why the Caldari ships are so good. Missiles offer awesome damage projection while shield tanking has both a passive and active option, with the general 5% resist bonus greatly benefiting both styles, both these things lends itself well to PvE.

Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2011-11-13 07:41:02 UTC
Cunane Jeran wrote:
Two old jokes come to mind:

Quote:
Caldari
PvP
Solo

Pick two.


Caldari PvP isn't bad they have some great options but its also important to note, Minmatar/Amarr/Gallente can do it so much better in all but ewar, especially when solo or in small gangs.


Judging by the amount of tear-filled posts regarding nanodrakes and 100MN AB Tengus, I'd say that joke has passed it's Use-By date.
Goodgodyourface
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2011-11-13 07:49:09 UTC
Cunane Jeran wrote:
Two old jokes come to mind:

Quote:
Caldari
PvP
Solo

Pick two.



PVP, Solo.

Okay.
Smabs
State War Academy
Caldari State
#44 - 2011-11-13 08:10:45 UTC
Caldari is okay for solo pvp, the idea that you can't or that it's vastly inferior is kinda outdated.
Duchess Starbuckington
Doomheim
#45 - 2011-11-13 13:09:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington
I really can't tell if the OP is a troll or really is just that stupid.

With the exception of ewar, Drake and Tengu (yay, they have a slightly better billion isk ship than the others, how wonderful) Caldari is totally overshadowed by Amarr and Winmatar.
Derth Ramir
Fight The Blob
#46 - 2011-11-14 01:32:39 UTC
adapt or die stop ******* complaining on the forums you little pieces of **** that someone found a way to make ****** missles work against you. Man up the drake puts out terrible dps and its range projection can easily be negated with a few sensor damps. Same goes for the tengu.

Fight The Blob.

Thelron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#47 - 2011-11-14 18:13:58 UTC
Derth Ramir wrote:
adapt or die stop ******* complaining on the forums you little pieces of **** that someone found a way to make ****** missles work against you. Man up the drake puts out terrible dps and its range projection can easily be negated with a few sensor damps. Same goes for the tengu.


To be fair, that is to some extent similar to the old 'I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you" between you and whoever's closest to them if they're using HMLs rather than HAMs (and who came up with the idea of killing things with unguided space-pig anyway?). Although, to continue being fair, whoever's closest should also be the hardest to kill off without a bunch of web/painter support so yeah, just damp it to hell and quit yer bitchin'
Maroxus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#48 - 2011-11-14 18:57:36 UTC
Trader Jjenna wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
What were you saying about Winmatar online?Big smile


You're right, because everyone is always exclaiming, "because of Huginn!"

Or not.

The only area I can see where matar beats Caldari is in Hacs because Eagle is pretty fail but Muninn is alright. But how many Muninn sniper fleets does anyone make anymore versus pure Drake fleets?


Raven vs any minmatar BS ... lol

Moa and Caracal vs Rupture and Stabber.
Cormorant vs Thrasher.
Flycatcher vs Sabre.
Merlin vs Rifter.
Nighthawk vs Sleipnir.
Basilisk vs Scimitar.
Ferox vs Cyclone.
Vulture vs Claymore.
Cerberus vs Vagabond.

Which of either match gets used most often? Caldari either gets hybrids (lolrail), missiles, or ECM.

Heavy Missiles and ECM is where we shine, the rest is usually ignored ...
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#49 - 2011-11-14 19:06:02 UTC
Maroxus wrote:

Heavy Missiles, rocket and ECM is where we shine, the rest is ignored ...


FIX'D
Hannibal Ord
Fer-De-Lance
#50 - 2011-11-14 19:56:00 UTC
Goodgodyourface wrote:
Cunane Jeran wrote:
Two old jokes come to mind:

Quote:
Caldari
PvP
Solo

Pick two.



PVP, Solo.

Okay.



For gods sake the Original joke was:-

Caldari
PvP
Solo
Victory

Pick two.

You bunch of monkeys!
Goodgodyourface
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2011-11-14 19:57:07 UTC
Hannibal Ord wrote:
Goodgodyourface wrote:
Cunane Jeran wrote:
Two old jokes come to mind:

Quote:
Caldari
PvP
Solo

Pick two.



PVP, Solo.

Okay.



For gods sake the Original joke was:-

Caldari
PvP
Solo
Victory

Pick two.

You bunch of monkeys!


PVP
Victory

So is this a riddle? It's impossible to be victorious in PVP?
Maroxus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#52 - 2011-11-14 20:00:09 UTC
Goodgodyourface wrote:
Hannibal Ord wrote:

For gods sake the Original joke was:-

Caldari
PvP
Solo
Victory

Pick two.

You bunch of monkeys!


PVP
Victory

So is this a riddle? It's impossible to be victorious in PVP?


I thought the original had Pick three. A joke on Caldari solo pvp ..
Hannibal Ord
Fer-De-Lance
#53 - 2011-11-14 20:03:38 UTC
Maroxus wrote:
Goodgodyourface wrote:
Hannibal Ord wrote:

For gods sake the Original joke was:-

Caldari
PvP
Solo
Victory

Pick two.

You bunch of monkeys!


PVP
Victory

So is this a riddle? It's impossible to be victorious in PVP?


I thought the original had Pick three. A joke on Caldari solo pvp ..


Damm that is right. All this trolling about Caldari being op has fried my brain.
Nezumiiro Noneko
Alternative Enterprises
#54 - 2011-11-14 22:49:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Nezumiiro Noneko
Yes caldari is op....

they hav the best caps since its well known shield tank caps and supers are vastly superior to armor ones. I mean they jsut fit so nice and easy. And that crystal bonus jsut makes them so op to a slaved one. Oh wait....crystals don't work on caps/supers.

Many a fleet has said 100 pests, 75 baddons and oh crap we are doomed, they have 5 rokhs.

They have a good bc, when in numbers. You put 100 canes on the field they will tear crap up. Put 100 harbs, same thing. Drake solo is not that great imo. Hell unless stuff changed that much (been awaya year form 0.0).....solo drake usually means bait or is just a marathon fight. You speed tank them to not get hit by missiles as hard, you chip away at their tank forvever. Now if lucky they are actually solo to see this out. If unlucky, yes they are bait.


dictors.....yes I fear flycatcher (well fear I'll will have to fly it it when market is out of sabres). sabres bow down to bulletcatchers greatness. I mean even that flycatchers one low slot is so damn op....I think it should be pulled so it has no low slots at all. didn't want that co-proc anyway since most of the time thats what the low slot is.


Frigates....rocket buff was nice to caldari. Still is a web required ship. Winmatar with skill/te/rigs/tit s ur du or drop down to 150's or even 125's and looky here....Its got tracking back and do not have to fit a web if pilot so chooses.
Korg Tronix
Mole Station Nursery
#55 - 2011-11-15 00:28:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Korg Tronix
Nezumiiro Noneko wrote:

Frigates....rocket buff was nice to caldari. Still is a web required ship. Winmatar with skill/te/rigs/tit s ur du or drop down to 150's or even 125's and looky here....Its got tracking back and do not have to fit a web if pilot so chooses.


Although the rest of your post was mostly incorrect, this sealed it for me. Rockets are quite possibly one of the best frigate weapons after blasters. A Hawk is easily competitive with either Minnie AF and in its armor fit owns both. The Hookbill is a brilliant combat frigate and tears Minnie frigs a new one. Admittedly the crow is ****.....the Merlin is great though.


As for Drakes not being good solo, there are plenty of Drake fits that are better or as good as any BC solo.

Edit. Had to add something about the Flycatcher, whilst it isnt as great as the Sabre. It drops bubbles just as well and when fit for it also tears frigates a new one. Does it do those jobs as well as the Sabre....no but that is less to do with the Flycatcher being bad than the Sabre being so much better than all the DICs.

Evil: If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One! [zaps one of his minions accidentally, minion screams]

Smabs
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2011-11-15 03:02:40 UTC
The caldari frigates are actually pretty good.

Harpy (esp. dualweb) is a nice dogfighter, the hawk is good, the merlin goes alongside the rifter and tristan as the best t1 frigate and the hookbill is really nice, too. Crow and raptor suck, yeah, but their other frigates are fine.
Nezumiiro Noneko
Alternative Enterprises
#57 - 2011-11-15 03:33:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Nezumiiro Noneko
Didn' say they were bad...they can be good. Its just they have some downsides. Once is range. rocket boats jumps the target th right way and yes I would put money on them. But if the caldari boat faiis to control range of combat (like against known kiters) it can get ugly. I liked what the rocekt buff did tbh. I just like minny flexibility with barrage and such more. And well crow does suck ass but even guy above admits that. hated flying it. voice comms sucked....hey you try not to die so fast...oh wait you are in a crow, nvm...:( Now manticore I do like as fave SB. CCP was very nice to us here. Love the mid slot layout. But I pack on stuff like ecm or damps and such for a well lets try not to die so fast ploy Here I differ form most...they like hounds and such. guess that shows I am not a caldari hater (actually started caldari, jsut a x-trained to minmatar).


Flycathcer I don't like for lack of a second low. Others get it to run a nano or ODII. Dictors are pretty much screwed in life....every m/s counts to get a good spread if double bubled or to not die in your own bubble if lucky. In my view anyway. Also fits like ass imo. Even single bubble I'll pick sbre since it gets more dps'y guns. Not blobbing the gate with 20 peeps. even the dictors need to pack some heat to drop stuff quicker.

Drake....if target is speed and sig tanking its just a drawn out affair. You might get some damage spikes when they spank mwd, about it. Beyond that its salvo after salvo of crappish dps against fast movjng targets with low sigs. At least with guns if you fly well, take away the targets traversal once in a while you get damage spikes more consistently. Better your rof, more you get your shots in when this happens. Why i don't like drake . Others mileage may vary.
Smabs
State War Academy
Caldari State
#58 - 2011-11-15 04:46:28 UTC
Do you actually have much experience flying these ships? I mean properly not ganking two guys in a 20 man gang. Really, caldari frigates outside of interceptors are fine.

The drake is pretty much the best all around battlecruiser. I don't know how you could argue otherwise.
David Clausewitz
David Clausewitz Corporation
#59 - 2011-11-15 05:05:19 UTC
Drakes and Tengus need a nerf
Goose99
#60 - 2011-11-15 05:10:10 UTC
Maroxus wrote:
Trader Jjenna wrote:
Goose99 wrote:
What were you saying about Winmatar online?Big smile


You're right, because everyone is always exclaiming, "because of Huginn!"

Or not.

The only area I can see where matar beats Caldari is in Hacs because Eagle is pretty fail but Muninn is alright. But how many Muninn sniper fleets does anyone make anymore versus pure Drake fleets?


Raven vs any minmatar BS ... lol

Moa and Caracal vs Rupture and Stabber.
Cormorant vs Thrasher.
Flycatcher vs Sabre.
Merlin vs Rifter.
Nighthawk vs Sleipnir.
Basilisk vs Scimitar.
Ferox vs Cyclone.
Vulture vs Claymore.
Cerberus vs Vagabond.

Which of either match gets used most often? Caldari either gets hybrids (lolrail), missiles, or ECM.

Heavy Missiles and ECM is where we shine, the rest is usually ignored ...


Caldari = drake, silly. Since drake is so vastly superior to cane. Oh wait...