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iuri rolho
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-08-25 22:36:37 UTC
i got wrecked on my ore frigate a few hours ago i i got a good amount from insurance but i don't have enough money to buy a better ship, any ways of getting a steady income of isk (more into pve), tried mining(semi profitable for me) i wanna try new ways, got any tips for me.
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#2 - 2013-08-25 22:42:54 UTC
There are many ways to make ISK in EVE, and as your skills go up your income will go up.
Try to look into things like trading, manufacturing, missions, PI or exploring for starters.

Also dont worry so much about ISK or upgrading to a bigger ship as fast as possible.
Focus on getting your support skills, learn the basics (and of course the proper skills for the ship) and then upgrade to the next ship class.

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iuri rolho
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-08-25 23:02:26 UTC
NightCrawler 85 wrote:
There are many ways to make ISK in EVE, and as your skills go up your income will go up.
Try to look into things like trading, manufacturing, missions, PI or exploring for starters.

Also dont worry so much about ISK or upgrading to a bigger ship as fast as possible.
Focus on getting your support skills, learn the basics (and of course the proper skills for the ship) and then upgrade to the next ship class.


what i need to get started in PI, if posible say how much isk i will need, and also the skills(and also the price of the books), i will probably try PI(seen yt stuff and seems interesting)
Solai
Doughfleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#4 - 2013-08-25 23:15:58 UTC
This recent thread has covered much about income generation.

However, you're so early in your Eve experience that, from a practical perspective, you're simply not experienced enough with the ins-and-outs of the game to make a lot of ISK. It's a learning process that I've gone through, along with everyone else, and it includes being broke early on.

You mention you can't afford to upgrade your ship. This indicates that you don't have enough isk to risk the loss a better ship. So it would be blatantly unwise to spend on a better ship, even if you could barely afford it right now. Never fly what you can't afford to lose.

Right now that's probably gonna come off as out-of-touch from what you're experiencing. But bare in mind that after the first two weeks, your income-generating ability will have gone way up, and this commonly-accepted axiom will start to make some sense. In other words, this is just a phase. You wont be broke for long. For now, just suffer through the crappy options.

But feel free to experiment with other means. You might get lucky, and beat the curve.

There's always missions, which are fairly decent for now. Push up to lvl 2 missions, then eventually level 3, and it will be decent, easy, reliable income. Exploration has a very low bar to entry, and works just as well. Salvaging is a great early option. PI is a money printing machine early on, and completely passive, supplementary to what you'd do otherwise. And trading, the most generally lucrative form of income, is possible right now, if you can figure out a market niche.

Joining a corp will also go a long ways in helping you gain speed sooner.
Solai
Doughfleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#5 - 2013-08-25 23:17:21 UTC
PI, linked via Eve University's wiki.
Or just Google Eve PI tutorial.
iuri rolho
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-08-26 00:20:06 UTC
well i played for about 1 month (then stopped for a big while now am back for 1 month more)
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-08-26 00:50:09 UTC
Sounds to me like you need to go back and complete all the career agent missions. Each empire has 3 sets of them you can complete. Not only will you get a nice boost to your faction standing, easily enough to open up access to level 3 missions if you have the Connections skill trained. You'll also get a bunch of ships including multiple Ventures and several million ISK.

You should also look into running the Sisters of Eve epic arc, it pays out around 10-20m ISK between mission rewards, loot and salvage. There's a nice guide for it on EVE Survival that I would normally link but I'm posting via my phone and it's a pita to do lol.
iuri rolho
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-08-26 10:57:25 UTC
Klymer wrote:
Sounds to me like you need to go back and complete all the career agent missions. Each empire has 3 sets of them you can complete. Not only will you get a nice boost to your faction standing, easily enough to open up access to level 3 missions if you have the Connections skill trained. You'll also get a bunch of ships including multiple Ventures and several million ISK.

You should also look into running the Sisters of Eve epic arc, it pays out around 10-20m ISK between mission rewards, loot and salvage. There's a nice guide for it on EVE Survival that I would normally link but I'm posting via my phone and it's a pita to do lol.


ok, probably i will complete them (the ones i can (if i met the requirements(i have 1 that requires to carry a big thing))),then i i will decide what to do(after i complete them), probably mining again or exploring, (also i will watch those vidios on yt How to Survive EVE Online - Odyssey < this on right?),well after so many "( )" i miss the count, lol
Kyra Quinn
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-08-26 11:56:19 UTC
I'll send you a mail in game with info on how to start doing exploration as a newbie, the right way.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-08-26 18:29:44 UTC
iuri rolho wrote:
what i need to get started in PI, if posible say how much isk i will need, and also the skills(and also the price of the books), i will probably try PI(seen yt stuff and seems interesting)


You can get a good start in PI with just Command Center Upgrades 4 and Interplanetary Consolidation 4, which is just a few days of training. You'll also need one level in Planetology if I remember correctly to do the scanning. Keep in mind that low/null sec PI is much more profitable than high if you can get your materials to the market without losing your ship. :)

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iuri rolho
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-08-26 22:11:26 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
iuri rolho wrote:
what i need to get started in PI, if posible say how much isk i will need, and also the skills(and also the price of the books), i will probably try PI(seen yt stuff and seems interesting)


You can get a good start in PI with just Command Center Upgrades 4 and Interplanetary Consolidation 4, which is just a few days of training. You'll also need one level in Planetology if I remember correctly to do the scanning. Keep in mind that low/null sec PI is much more profitable than high if you can get your materials to the market without losing your ship. :)


what ship do you recomend to carry the command thing?
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-08-26 22:40:46 UTC
pretty much any hauler will do. if you want to go to lowsec, a blockade runner with covert ops cloak is very advisable.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#13 - 2013-08-26 23:10:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Inxentas Ultramar
Daniel Plain wrote:
pretty much any hauler will do. if you want to go to lowsec, a blockade runner with covert ops cloak is very advisable.


Also get to grips with the nature of covops cloaks before you fly a blockade runner. These ships may be out of your price range for a while, but some proper scout work and a well-tanked Industrial with a couple of warp core stabilizers wll do the trick too. Imagine you pass a lowsec gate, and warp to a customs office. You then start to align out before making the transition. Quickly hit warp when you have exchanged the goods. If you do this 1 jump away from hisec there is literally a window of a second someone can shoot you while transporting the goods, which can be more valuable then the hauler itself. You might lose your ship to a gatecamp while coming in, but it's extremely hard to catch you with the goods going back out. Lowsec has no bubbles, so once you are in warp on 0 on the gate you are home-free, barring smartbombing battleships and hisec gankers.

You will lose a couple of haulers but your profits will offset this easily, if you play your cards right.