Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Greetings,

I have noticed that in Eve that the items that you make are larger in volume than the raw materials that you used to make it. While I understand that some items are like that to avoid them being brought into high security space or prevent them from being put into a freighter, it makes it very frustrating for someone who is an avid industrialist such as myself. I currently build capital ships and my last build run I took 10.3 million M3 worth of raw T1 minerals and built little over 18 million M3 worth of components.

Please do correct me if I am wrong, as I most certainly well could be, but I do not believe that manufactured products are supposed to be more than the raw materials that are processed into manufacturing it. I may just be frustrated due to the large amount of my time every week dedicated to moving tritanium around but this just seems like it could use a rework so that the finished product is the same or less than the raw materials that are used to manufacture it.

I never thought about it that way, and I think your right. I still would like to decrease the amount of time I need to spend each week moving tritanium :D

perhaps we could duct tape freighters together or something. I donno.

this is where eve is like like real life oddly enough.

You have your base structure which can be just beams (steel, iron, ,wood, what have you) which before assembly can be piled up in nice stacks. When assembled is when they take up space. Even a basic structure like a shed can be shipped as the walls layed out on a bed of a truck or stacked up on its side and the frame is jsut some beams stacked all nice and pretty.

Auto industry also pro at this. Your foreign cars made in the use are basically shipped in pieces. Its more cost effective to ship 100 cars in pieces and assemble at a plant than 100 cars on the cargo freighter. The frame you can make more local to site or ship from Mexico (for US anyway). Honda, Nissan, etc do this. trannies, motors and other stuff made here in japan and shipped to be slapped on the frame in the US from wherever they get the frame.


Or the military. See a wide sweeping base camp all put together and ever wonder how it got there? Even the monster tents fold up to a reasonable size and the poles get stacked up in plain ole connex boxes. Did a few field ops, you'd be amazed how much stuff you can squeeze into even a comm connex box that once emptied out for the movement to the sight hours laters is used to have personnel working comm gear. It wasn't a tardis granted...but in the military you learn to get alot of crap in a box set to be deployed for ops.

Yeah, 425mm railgun uses 1500m3 of materials, fits into 50m3. Then it is reprocessed to give you back 1500m3 of materials. Space magic!

As for transporting capital parts: one technique that was in common use last time I checked was to use NPC lines in lowsec to manufacture heaps of carriers and mineral-compression-parts, fly the carriers to nullsec, reprocess them to get the capital construction parts back, then build the supercapitals from those parts.

Why build the capital ships in lowsec? Because null industry is hobbled.