EVE General Discussion

That would inject too much isk into the system and do great harm to the game.

From here.


From here.

The moral of the story is there is no such thing as zero risk... ever... as long as we're talking about those Eve professions I approve of. If we're talking about professions I disapprove of, well lulz, of course those are risk free.

In before Tippia's claim that there is no contradiction and hypocrisy and convolutes his conviction with tippia-facts, because human error should not be accounted for in risk calculations when it comes to mission running.

Missions aren't risk free as I found out when I lost my poor widdle golem to a disconnect. *sniffle* But, to be honest, my Golem died when the cruise missile buff made torps obsolete. The actual explosion was just the funeral.

If you want to make a bazillion isk/hour running level 4s, then at a minimum you need to:
a) use T2 weapons, (as a general rule, i.e. a faction tachyon nightmare is an exception)
b) blitz for LP
c) research which LP items get you 2+k isk/lp.
d) research which LP stores are the "good" ones to work for
e) get your *faction* standings up high enough that you can decline multiple missions per 4 hour block,
f) know which missions have the "best" isk/hr earnings potential, (spreadsheets are your friend)
g) spend time converting LP into isk. (i.e. get the items to market, and then wait for them to sell.)
h) have enough experience to balance your gank versus tank ratio
i) using different ships, from fast shuttles/frigates/interceptors to Marauders.

Disclaimer: isk/hr is a misleading/disingenuous. You're actually building up assets worth a potential X isk every hour. Due to the need to "wait" on the market orders to realize isk from LP conversions, your wall clock isk/hour is going to be lower. OTOH, market orders work while you're afk/offline, so... semantics.

Gravy:
* having multiple level 4 agents in the same station is gravy
* dual boxing
* having a steady someone who will buy your LP items and spare you the time needed to convert them to isk
* using a marauder to salvage (but again, since you're blitzing and using different ships, YMMV.)
* Mach

Of course, if every level 4 mission runner did all that, then the value of LP items would tank, and we'd be focused on bounty ticks.


edit: Also, you may need to
* move/find unsullied agents that haven't had their LP rewards reduced to the bare minimum by blitzing mission runners.
* avoid tornado gangs (i.e. getting suicide ganked)

People use battleships for level 4s?

LOL. The player IQ has been dropping if that's the case.

Mr Epeen

Strategic cruisers/faction cruisers are still the top level blitzing missions when someone figures out LP's ARE the isk income from missions, lvl3's pay way too much, lvl5's pay really really too much, null sec missions pay way too low and null rats bounties are a joke compared to what you can do in high sec in PERFECT safety.

This thread has made it to 9 pages.

GD I am disappoint.

And in an economy where you experience inflation (currency devaluation) prices go up.

but if you don't undock you cant complete any missions ....

Literally nowhere. The only improvements I could need is the option to strap on a jumpdrive so I can follow caps and blops around.


However what I said is true. Null has seem a boatload of nerfs to its income over the years ( almost all of them warrented) but high sec was not altered to match the changes. This is why we are now in the situation where there is no real reason to leave high sec because the risk just isnt worth it. You will earn around the same or more in high high sec these days.

one out of how many ......

tbh anyone who claims that hi-sec is perfect safety for mission runners is both a deluded fool and a liar