Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Actual translation - or transilation - is making the game a bit more appealing to confrontations. Keeping objective here, one can certainly agree that just about anybody who doesn't want to die will always be aligned some how. It is also not rare to see oh-so-tactical-genius aka fleet commanders just warping and bouncing fleets and forth and never really even doing anything. Been in various fleet confrontations and it was just about that warping around until the others just moved away. One can see that as a victory, but something is seriously wrong in EVE if you see lots of ships but no shots fired.

I do agree that it is way too simple to get away.
I think what the OP is referring to is that Spooling FTL and/or mechanics around such. Spooling as in heating up the FTL drives for the jump.

Personally, I'd love to see something like that added, because I do must admit that being perma-aligned to just warp out is just a silly mechanic. However, there has to be more around slowing down the process. This might also include the necessity to put in more FTL sorts of propulsion - like various flavors from the good ol warp, to blink jumps, cyno, slipstream[/b] - whatever scifi FTL might suit the EVE flavor.

Moving on on that subject, this is why I'd really love to see basic subsystem implementations for T1 and T2 (and a variant for T3) regarding FTL/Propulsion, so the player can have a secondary long range FTL sort to shorten the "align-warp change" (screw nerfs).

All in all, it would be more interesting.

But excluding what I just said, delaying warping-out requires compensation. I'd almost say increasing eHP by a nice percentage for all ships across the board; a way so that they do not have to be instant food to the first tackler and his 99 buddies about to roll in. Would actually help have longer fights.

FTL you also can't stop them warping unless you destroy their engines. You can delay them a bit with a specific device but you can never actually stop them leaving. So if you use that mechanic all they have to do is tank you for 30-60 seconds and they warp off at that point instead.

So, don't claim one side of the mechanics without being honest about the other mechanic that goes along side it.

I am not trying to bring FTL in eve, i am not trying to get anything into eve, i am suggesting that idea of a mechanic where warping off right away cant happen sounds nice, and realistic to science fiction in general even tho its not true.

It also adds a mechanic where in totally normal situation you might be forced to try to last and warp off.
The only situation where this is boring is when nothing happens at a warp in, that's why i say make something where you can warp out faster. But with a disadvantage for combat.

Now What i do suggest on the other hand thinking about it, a mechanic where you can stop warp disruption with every ship, altho i am unsure how that would work within the mechanics of eve, something not 100% effective but also that does not count on range from target but that's not a default win

Something like the hacking mini game, where everyone has a chance if they are able to think.

Your warp engines should actually not need momentum to start warping out, actually warping space takes not speed, warping space only adds a multiplier to how fast you can go. (i said that before)

I hate how people can warp out when my cruise missile raven is hitting them from 100km. OMG it's so broken. It's also annoying because I usually camp station a lot (because that's the endgame of eve, obviously...) and I hate how these newbs that I pick on can warp away before I can catch them.

I can't see any way to implement this without making it an extreme chore just to do every day gameplay.

You cannot warp of right away at a gate and stations, you have to align first which will take several seconds. Either you are not using a disruptor oryour targeting is too slow (i.e you are in a big ship, they are in a small ship). Try fitting a sebo and a disruptor or getting into a smaller ship that will target faster.

Hey then lets put a charger on a CO then. you just do something and get some energy. Now you can warp off has you want with your big hauler.

Thats the point, its to make all you just said harder, unplanned activity's.

So basically this whole 2 pages of FTL yes/no conversation is for 'cos some lowsec pirate cant catch his prey? Try nullsec or wh, there you can use bubbles. Adapt or die away.