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Pirate Faction Ships are T1 - YES/NO

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#21 - 2013-08-23 14:57:34 UTC
Kaillon Huren wrote:
Are Pirate Faction ships part of the T1 Tieracide rebalance or not, Navy ones have been done.

No body wants Pirate Faction Ships improved, hmm.

Thinks to self about typical "improvements" and sidles off quietly to enjoy flying ships in their final days of pre "nerf" state and tells self to shut up and leave quietly.


4 different 50k specialist cargo bays, instead of just giving every races largest indy 50k+ general cargo space. REALLY !!

At level 5 of any races indy i would like 100k general cargo space, fill in the gap between indys and frieghters a bit, though i suppose most people who have the SP's will continue to use Carriers, JF's and Orca's in strange and interesting ways to actually do something useful.

Do most of CCP employees sit around in Iron Maiden T-shirts and say "awesome" in every other sentence.

Would it be interesting to have a 100k cargo bay and use the races differences to tank the ship to avoid ganking.

Not totally "neetoh" but vaguely useful, though possibly awesome-ish, and only a limited need for gummy bears whatever the **** they are.


Pirate ships are indeed technically T1, but that doesn't dictate when they'll be reworked. However the tiercide project includes ALL ships.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Lee Saisima
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-08-23 14:59:29 UTC
Kaillon Huren wrote:
Lee Saisima wrote:
Kaillon Huren wrote:
Lee Saisima wrote:
Kaillon Huren wrote:
only quafe t-shirt wearing fan boys who say awesome all the time will basically say its awesome.


Show me where the Quafe Tshirt-wearing paedophile touched you on this dolly.
Awesome.

Love the tears btw, don't care what the topic is actually about. U mad? Wanna lil' babby bottle to catch those tears?

QQ...QQ...


Paedophile jokes, is that how the eve forums see off criticism, did i remind you of everything you find threatening and distasteful, ruin your lovely "everything is awesome" mantra.


I can't wait to get into the new indy ships, they're gonna be awesome. You just butthurt. I can smell the mad on you.


Thats the problem "ships" one for Ice ore one for PI stuff and one for pos fuel all giveing you 50k unique space, why not one ship that gives you 50k general cargo space, i really dont want 3-4 different ships for work on different stages of industrial production, and please less paedophile and anal sex references. Makes you sound American.




I think I touched a nerve there with that "show me on the dolly" reference...interesting. As for game design, leave that to the awesome CCP Devs who can do no wrong. If they say we shall get four indys, we shall get four awesome new indys. I'm guessing you work in something quite isolating, like sewer spelunking for fatbergs or something. You seem to have quite a high value of your own opinion at any rate. I think you just mad because you have to go fishing for fatbergs for a living. I'm gonna call you butty-mcButthurt from now on because I like you.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#23 - 2013-08-23 15:03:17 UTC
Kaillon Huren wrote:

Paedophile jokes, is that how the eve forums see off criticism, did i remind you of everything you find threatening and distasteful, ruin your lovely "everything is awesome" mantra.


You keep using that comma. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

Kaillon Huren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-08-23 15:09:27 UTC
Hmm now there's an odd comment , some one who might use an industrial ship for the purposes of industrial work is a wierdo.

I would just like to point out that wearing your tee shirt and flying around in a new ship, whilst also wearing a little hat with a propeller on the top and shout freaking awesome may do it for you.

Sadly many production activities require you to ship ORE and Minerals and PI and final produce, changing ship each and every different level of the industrial process is annoying and possibly not very helpful.

Therefore an Industrial ship that had 50k to 100k of general cargo space would be actually more useful instead of gimickey.
Lee Saisima
Doomheim
#25 - 2013-08-23 15:12:12 UTC
*sigh*

Bored now.
Kaillon Huren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-08-23 15:15:39 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
[quote=Kaillon Huren]Are Pirate Faction ships part of the T1 Tieracide rebalance or not, Navy ones have been done.



Pirate ships are indeed technically T1, but that doesn't dictate when they'll be reworked. However the tiercide project includes ALL ships.


Thankyou for the totally vague reply.

Was a little disappointed that at least the rig calibration increase wasn't shared out to all T1 ships and will have to wait to see if that happens anytime soon.
Rengerel en Distel
#27 - 2013-08-23 15:15:43 UTC
You're about 4 months late to ***** about the industrial changes. They had to figure out something to do with the extra gallente ships, and this is what they came up with after the community suggested it. I'd love a mini-freighter with a 100-200k m3 cargo, but it doesn't appear to be in the works, unless they change the deep space transports.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.

Lee Saisima
Doomheim
#28 - 2013-08-23 15:18:39 UTC
--> Features & Ideas Discussion, please. GD is for real men and great wisdom.
Kaillon Huren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-08-23 15:21:44 UTC
Lee Saisima wrote:
*sigh*

Bored now.


Sorry I tried a reasoned intelligible style of arguement and lost your attention, perhaps i should have tried little cartoon pictures to stop you getting bored.

Perhaps you prefer the more american style of debate, using perverted sexual references and other low blow stuff like your presidential elections.

See what I did there. you'll be blow harding at full steam again soon.

You can thank me later.
Lee Saisima
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-08-23 15:25:27 UTC
Kaillon Huren wrote:
Lee Saisima wrote:
*sigh*

Bored now.


Sorry I tried a reasoned intelligible style of arguement and lost your attention, perhaps i should have tried little cartoon pictures to stop you getting bored.

Perhaps you prefer the more american style of debate, using perverted sexual references and other low blow stuff like your presidential elections.

See what I did there. you'll be blow harding at full steam again soon.

You can thank me later.


I'm not American. Yeah, words, some stuff. Nobody cares. Your opinions mean nought. Go back to mining fatbergs, scrub.
Kaillon Huren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2013-08-23 15:25:34 UTC
Phew I must be mad.

Never done this before, its fun but very silly.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-08-23 15:39:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
When will there be enough so it makes sense to stop?
Is the limit the beginning of the ending of going further?
Will Will willfully wilder wild Weasels?
How much wood would Elijah Wood chuck if Chuck would ?

Questions above questions...
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#33 - 2013-08-23 16:01:39 UTC
Kaillon Huren wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
[quote=Kaillon Huren]Are Pirate Faction ships part of the T1 Tieracide rebalance or not, Navy ones have been done.



Pirate ships are indeed technically T1, but that doesn't dictate when they'll be reworked. However the tiercide project includes ALL ships.


Thankyou for the totally vague reply.

Disjoint ramble gets vague answer; that's how it works.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#34 - 2013-08-23 17:55:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
1: Pirate ships are Tech 1 ships and will be balanced in turn, they will likely be some of the last to be balanced because of their high position on the EVE food chain.

2: Tech 1 cargo vessels "would" be very amusing if given a monstrous cargo hold. The sheer amount of fury generated by people filling a soap bubble with expensive goods only to get popped by a destroyer would be well worth it. Still, not likely to happen. (Be careful what you wish for).

3: Making Tech 1 cargo vessels tanky enough to protect the value of a huge cargo hold causes all sorts of balance issue.

4: Related point to #3. Ganking is not a problem to be solved, it is an intended (and carefully balanced) game mechanic.

5: The choices were either specialty cargo holds, or removing them from the game completely. The majority of the community opted for specialty cargo holds. Sorry you disagree.

6: If you use your hauler for a wide variety of tasks (instead of specializing in one aspect of industry) each race has a hauler that has a good general cargo hold... in most cases better than it was before.

7: Americans aren't known for making pedophile jokes. Americans are known for making pedophiles prime targets for prison assaults. Take that for what it's worth. Smile

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Malimbachi Arjar
streamfleet07
#35 - 2013-08-23 20:17:18 UTC
Kaillon Huren wrote:
Din Chao wrote:
Kaillon Huren wrote:
You want me to be scathingly critical and sarcastic in that channel to.

No, you can be vague, confusing and unintelligible there, just like you were here.


Vague - ok the new changes to indys are a ******* joke and only quafe t-shirt wearing fan boys who say awesome all the time will basically say its awesome.

Why carry ore in one ship, refine it, put it in a mineral ship, produce ammo and put the final product in a third ship, when all they give you is 50k cargo space for one specific cargo type instead giving them all 50k or 100k general cargo space. Vague, sorry do you require pictures you moron.

Go take your medication and repeat ~"everything is awesome" over and over again.

As for Pirate ships being part ot the Tier 1 rebalance, I realised whilst typing that that maybe a bad idea, seeing as most improvements are nerfs. So ill keep quiet and enjoy them while they are unruined.



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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#36 - 2013-08-23 20:38:09 UTC
I'll just quote and answer the only part of the OP that made the least bit of sense:

OP wrote:


Pirate Faction Ships are T1 - YES/NO


Yes

Mr Epeen Cool
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-08-23 20:45:04 UTC
Kaillon Huren wrote:
Hmm now there's an odd comment , some one who might use an industrial ship for the purposes of industrial work is a wierdo.

I would just like to point out that wearing your tee shirt and flying around in a new ship, whilst also wearing a little hat with a propeller on the top and shout freaking awesome may do it for you.

Sadly many production activities require you to ship ORE and Minerals and PI and final produce, changing ship each and every different level of the industrial process is annoying and possibly not very helpful.

Therefore an Industrial ship that had 50k to 100k of general cargo space would be actually more useful instead of gimickey.


Haul in an Orca.

Problem solved, no?
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#38 - 2013-08-23 21:39:11 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Random words
Spatter my monitor
Kaillon speaks


5-7-5

You fail at writing haikus.
Medarr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-08-23 23:11:42 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Random words
Spatter my monitor
Kaillon speaks


Did you just slip a haiku in there? Shocked
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#40 - 2013-08-23 23:15:52 UTC
Not sure if troll or toxic kid..
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