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Archaeology and hacking skills access difficulty bonus?

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Captain Karrzaka
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-07-12 17:46:49 UTC
Is access difficulty bonus on archaeology and hacking skill still working? What purpose does it have now?
Kali Maat
PVP FAST
#2 - 2013-07-12 17:47:41 UTC
it's helping you in some way in the hacking mini-game..
Captain Karrzaka
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-07-12 17:49:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Karrzaka
Does it decrease the suppression and restoration nodes in container when analyzed? There is very little information about access difficulty bonus. Anyone has CCPBlog or EVEBlog which explains its purpose now?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#4 - 2013-07-12 17:51:43 UTC
Captain Karrzaka wrote:
Does it decrease the suppression and restoration nodes example?


No, but it does improve your overall stats. Virus Strength (attack), and Virus (I think) Cohesion, which is your HP.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Captain Karrzaka
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-07-12 17:52:24 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Captain Karrzaka wrote:
Does it decrease the suppression and restoration nodes example?


No, but it does improve your overall stats. Virus Strength (attack), and Virus (I think) Cohesion, which is your HP.



Okay. You sure about it?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6 - 2013-07-12 17:54:41 UTC
Captain Karrzaka wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Captain Karrzaka wrote:
Does it decrease the suppression and restoration nodes example?


No, but it does improve your overall stats. Virus Strength (attack), and Virus (I think) Cohesion, which is your HP.



Okay. You sure about it?


Yes. I do this a lot. Not sure about my terminology, but yes, that's how it works.

I also highly suggest using a T2 cov ops frigate if you intend to go into lowsec or nullsec. The bonus to Virus from the cov ops portion of the hull, helps a ton.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Captain Karrzaka
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-07-12 17:56:18 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Captain Karrzaka wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Captain Karrzaka wrote:
Does it decrease the suppression and restoration nodes example?


No, but it does improve your overall stats. Virus Strength (attack), and Virus (I think) Cohesion, which is your HP.



Okay. You sure about it?


Yes. I do this a lot. Not sure about my terminology, but yes, that's how it works.

I also highly suggest using a T2 cov ops frigate if you intend to go into lowsec or nullsec. The bonus to Virus from the cov ops portion of the hull, helps a ton.


Okay thanks.
Vrenth
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-07-12 18:55:18 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Captain Karrzaka wrote:
Does it decrease the suppression and restoration nodes example?


No, but it does improve your overall stats. Virus Strength (attack), and Virus (I think) Cohesion, which is your HP.




No it doesn't, the access difficulty bonus has no effect on the current mini-game. All it does is increase your chances of accessing the few containers that still use the old system. CCP is looking for a way to implement this stat into other game mechanics, or they will remove it...
Spider Fiona
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-08-23 16:57:33 UTC
I got same question about this state 2. Here is the answer I got from in-game scanning channel

[16:47:34] Spider Fiona > hi anyone can help me explain about 'access difficulty bonus'?
[16:47:51] Trevor Dalech > obsolete I think
[16:48:43] Trevor Dalech > pre-odyssey, cans had different strengths and some were harder to open with low skills/gear, it all got replaced by the minigame but the stat is still on the items
[16:49:12] Spider Fiona > kk make sense tyvm

I do hope that CCP could make this as a bonus that reduce the over all count of defensive system. But ATM, if you can use T2 analyzer and T2 ship for it, you should be fine.
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#10 - 2013-08-23 19:03:19 UTC
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Metal Icarus
Wraithguard.
The Wraithguard.
#11 - 2013-08-23 19:11:51 UTC
Virus coherence according to which site you are doing.

Instead of 5 clicks it takes to disable a firewall at lvl 2, at lvl 5 it takes 2
Orlacc
#12 - 2013-08-23 22:36:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
Only viable for incursion sites and their old style cans as far as I can tell. No effect on mini-game. It is pretty easy to check if you have two toons.

Why do newer folks feel the need to post bad info?

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Cheng Musana
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-08-26 01:47:34 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
Virus coherence according to which site you are doing.

Instead of 5 clicks it takes to disable a firewall at lvl 2, at lvl 5 it takes 2

Not true. Virus coherence is basically your tank (like on your ship) but virus strenght is how much damage you do to things like firewalls. Archeology/hacking adds +10 per lvl to coherence per lvl. The only way to get higher virus strenght is with ship bonuses and better modules like T2 relic analyzers.
Hi O
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-11-22 08:45:58 UTC
Cheng Musana wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
Virus coherence according to which site you are doing.

Instead of 5 clicks it takes to disable a firewall at lvl 2, at lvl 5 it takes 2

Not true. Virus coherence is basically your tank (like on your ship) but virus strenght is how much damage you do to things like firewalls. Archeology/hacking adds +10 per lvl to coherence per lvl. The only way to get higher virus strenght is with ship bonuses and better modules like T2 relic analyzers.


OP asked about Access Difficulty Bonus.
Janna Sway
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-11-23 00:37:56 UTC
Kali Maat wrote:
it's helping you in some way in the hacking mini-game..


Has this been officially confirmed? Shocked