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Sentry Drone Control Range.
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Kubla-Kahn
Purple Gang
#21 - 2013-08-23 17:04:15 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Vrenth wrote:
Sentry boats are already powerful and they don't need any more buffs. This is coming from someone who flies them often. There are plenty of ways in increase drone control range far beyond what low DPS sniper boats can attain, and we track on a dime and hit harder than 1400mm arty at that range.

In it's current system, a tradeoff is needed to allow sniping with sentries from long ranges, and high slots/rigs are a hell of alot better than making it hurt your tank/drone dps.


This isn't a buff, and it's not aimed completely at sentries. It's pointing out a flaw in the already-borked drone system we put up with daily.



But one that doe some seriously great damage!
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-08-23 19:11:54 UTC
Vrenth wrote:
Sentry boats are already powerful and they don't need any more buffs. This is coming from someone who flies them often. There are plenty of ways in increase drone control range far beyond what low DPS sniper boats can attain, and we track on a dime and hit harder than 1400mm arty at that range.

In it's current system, a tradeoff is needed to allow sniping with sentries from long ranges, and high slots/rigs are a hell of alot better than making it hurt your tank/drone dps.


As a Domi pilot I would have to agree. I think this is a classic case of people always wanting their favorite ships to be better. Of course because who wants worse?? Where the problem comes in is that Eve is a PVP game so one ship can't be too OP. If you made it where you could launch 10 drones some people would ask to be able to launch all drones. It's about making things level where one ship isn't "best". BTW I'm going to be sad when the nerf bat hits the Domi...
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#23 - 2013-08-23 20:54:14 UTC
Viceversa wrote:
Hi, I'd like to discuss about sentry drone mechanism.

In case of normal combat drones, like warriors or ogres, we can understand this control range limits the area that we can deliver DPS and effectively attack the targets.
However in case of sentry drones, actually they do not move, their dps cannot be delivered more than the "drone control range, and it seems to have no problem at that moment.


so it's ok for heavies and smaller to be restricted by drone control range but sentries limit should be removed? not sure why

Viceversa wrote:
[quote=Oska Rus]
No, rr drones have limited rr range.
When they run to repair you, they lock on you first, run and repair you.


"rr droneboats" means dominixes sitting at 100k or more km from target and sniping it, while repairing each other. if you start using rr drones in fight in dominix, you may aswell start a doctrine withmaelstroms with remote repairers all waiting to be finally destroyed, because they don't apply damage
Chronos Astre
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-08-24 01:29:36 UTC
Two things:

1) you hit the nail on the head- it's not actually an issue, as it is well understood that the drone control distance effectively limits the area in which drones can deal their DPS. Ogres, hobs, salvage drones, ewar drones, we all know drone control range limits the area the drones affect (whether through damage, repair amounts, or other effects). Thus making it different with sentries is actually less consistent, and really, there is no reason a change needs to be done.

2) Sentries *are* different. When you have them set to aggressive, and someone shoots at you from 70km, they shoot back. They destroy the target in question. It's ridiculous that you can't tell them to do what they are already doing without your input. If they are comfortable with the situation as it stands, they shouldn't allow "workarounds" like assisting fleet members, being shot at, or what have you. Personally, I'd like to see "drone control range" as being the distance drones can be from you before you can't control them, and they drift until you come back for them, just like abandoning them by warping off the grid. In some ways more harsh, but also more "realistic" than the range from which you can "paint" a target for your drones, which is what drone control range seems to be.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-08-24 11:52:12 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Because sentry domi's area clearly underpowered when it comes to applying dps at range..............................



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Yeah that's exactly what they need, drop sentries and MJD 100km away so they can snipe with sentries for over 250km... ho my we're all dumb people and can't see the benefits of this.

would be good.
but you need:
1. locking range 250km (how many sensor boosters?)
2. control range to drones 100km (2x modules?)
3. Optimal+falloff of drones 150km

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