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Smart bombs in high sec question
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Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#1 - 2013-08-23 12:51:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Egravant Alduin
Hi guys,
Since I almost lose my battleship from 10 or more frigates in high sec I would like to ask how you can use those smart bombs everyone's say?

If I use them after I have warped through a mission acceleration gate will concord kill me?

Do I lose standing or something?

Since in overview I can't see near concord ship will I still die?

Is it a clever idea to use them in ship that has one free high slot in high sec?

Thank you

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Anuminas Alland
Aspergus Carebearnaise
#2 - 2013-08-23 13:00:33 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Hi guys,
Since I almost lose my battleship from 10 or more frigates in high sec I would like to ask how you can use those smart bombs everyone's say?

If I use them after I have warped through a mission acceleration gate will concord kill me?

Do I lose standing or something?

Since in overview I can't see near concord ship will I still die?

Is it a clever idea to use them in ship that has one free high slot in high sec?

Thank you



You will be instantly melted by CONCORD if you use any bomb in highsec, for any reason.

Use in nullsec only.
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#3 - 2013-08-23 13:03:05 UTC
I m talking for large EMP smartbomb or similar .

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Cpt Stefi
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-08-23 13:35:28 UTC
Smart-bombs are tricky.

you can activate them in high security space, but you must not hit something that can cause concord to spawn.

Things like a neutral rookie ship that flew right next to you, npc rocks large colisomething objects and many other things.

If you have the range of the smartbomb clear then you can use it.
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#5 - 2013-08-23 13:39:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Egravant Alduin
Mmmm I see.If i can t see something in ALL overview in range of bomb is that fine?I m your first like :)

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Cpt Stefi
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-08-23 13:42:24 UTC
keep your tactical view open.

move your cursor to the smart bomb module to see the radius that the bomb has, if you see something inside that radius then don't turn it on if there are only rats then you are free to use it.

Edit : thx for the like :)
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-08-23 13:44:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Mmmm I see.If i can t see something in ALL overview in range of bomb is that fine?


Cloaked ship. :-)
Cpt Stefi
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-08-23 13:46:49 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Mmmm I see.If i can t see something in ALL overview in range of bomb is that fine?


Cloaked ship. :-)


cloacked ships are a problem for sure but if you are not in a busy system with many ninja salvagers then you don't have a problem.

My advice is train your drone skills. you can kill frigates fast with light drones.
Egravant Alduin
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#9 - 2013-08-23 13:53:47 UTC
Cpt Stefi wrote:
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Mmmm I see.If i can t see something in ALL overview in range of bomb is that fine?


Cloaked ship. :-)


cloacked ships are a problem for sure but if you are not in a busy system with many ninja salvagers then you don't have a problem.

My advice is train your drone skills. you can kill frigates fast with light drones.


If you have 20 frigates to deal even drone skills not enough.Thank you .

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!
Kery Nysell
#10 - 2013-08-23 14:28:58 UTC
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Cpt Stefi wrote:
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Egravant Alduin wrote:
Mmmm I see.If i can t see something in ALL overview in range of bomb is that fine?


Cloaked ship. :-)


cloacked ships are a problem for sure but if you are not in a busy system with many ninja salvagers then you don't have a problem.

My advice is train your drone skills. you can kill frigates fast with light drones.


If you have 20 frigates to deal even drone skills not enough.Thank you .


Are those 20 frigates NPCs in a mission ?

If so, and if you're in a properly fitted Battleship in a level 4 mission, you should be able to totally ignore them while you focus your fire on the real damagers, the NPC Battleships, Battlecruisers and some Cruisers ...

I usually ignore the frigs until I have cleared everything else, then use a flight of 5 Tech 2 Light Drones to kill the non-elite versions while I blap the elites with Precision Cruise missiles + Target Painter ...

...
Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-08-23 14:36:05 UTC
If twenty frigs are a problem for you you're doing something wrong that even smarties won't help you with in the long run.

Never use smarties in high-sec except if you wanna suicide gank someone.

Related story: Once in Airkio a two or three day old newb asked for help in an L1 mission. Me being the nice guy that I am and sitting in a Kestrel at the time say "sure." We fleet up and warp into the deadspace pocket. Two handfulls of drone frigs wait which he is struggling with something fierce. My T2 rocket Kessie makes short work of them and only two or three of them are left when I hear "dat CRAAACK." I'm about to post not to use smarties in fleet chat when two white crosses appear and go to work on him. I'm pretty sure they one-volleyed him. He quit! Sad
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#12 - 2013-08-23 16:29:09 UTC
Cpt Stefi wrote:
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Cloaked ship. :-)


cloacked ships are a problem for sure but if you are not in a busy system with many ninja salvagers then you don't have a problem.


If I knew for sure you were flying even a semi-pimped ship in high sec with smartbombs I'd go out of my way to lose a covops just to see what drops. Concord ganks you for me; what could go wrong?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-08-23 17:36:19 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Cpt Stefi wrote:
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Cloaked ship. :-)


cloacked ships are a problem for sure but if you are not in a busy system with many ninja salvagers then you don't have a problem.


If I knew for sure you were flying even a semi-pimped ship in high sec with smartbombs I'd go out of my way to lose a covops just to see what drops. Concord ganks you for me; what could go wrong?


Beside the ******** amout of time possibly wasted on finding him, nothing would go wrong.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-08-23 18:39:18 UTC
L4 locator agents don't take that long to find people.
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-08-23 18:54:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobias Hareka
Egravant Alduin wrote:
If you have 20 frigates to deal even drone skills not enough.Thank you .


Killing a NPC frigate takes like 3 seconds with maxed drone skills. Less if you're using drone boat (ship with drone damage bonus + you're using Drone Damage Amplifiers).

Frostys Virpio wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Cpt Stefi wrote:
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Cloaked ship. :-)


cloacked ships are a problem for sure but if you are not in a busy system with many ninja salvagers then you don't have a problem.


If I knew for sure you were flying even a semi-pimped ship in high sec with smartbombs I'd go out of my way to lose a covops just to see what drops. Concord ganks you for me; what could go wrong?


Beside the ******** amout of time possibly wasted on finding him, nothing would go wrong.


Locator agents.

And probing down a battleship doesn't take long. You don't even need maxed skills.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-08-25 17:38:08 UTC
Tobias Hareka wrote:


Locator agents.

And probing down a battleship doesn't take long. You don't even need maxed skills.


And thats why I made the precision of possibly wasted. What if the locator tell you he's 2 region away? You burn there? What if he is logged out at the point? Or slowboating with loot back 1 region again to sell his loot/buy ammo?

It sure can be done but at some point, it become a waste of time imo.
Roxxo I'doCocaine
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-08-25 18:16:34 UTC
If full safety is on, will the smartbomb work anyway (assuming an innocent ship is in range) and get you CONCORDed?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-08-25 18:27:01 UTC
You can't activate a smartbomb in highsec without turning safety off.
Anuminas Alland
Aspergus Carebearnaise
#19 - 2013-08-25 19:46:07 UTC
Since this has been bumped, I have to admit to wanting to know how this plan worked out for the OP. If he'll come back and share. What?
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#20 - 2013-08-27 13:01:43 UTC
MJD (micro jump drive) > smart bombs

Jump 100 km away, laugh as you burn them down before they even get in range to hit you.
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