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Cry Now
Thorup and Friends industries
#1 - 2013-08-20 20:16:31 UTC
I am wondered about why CCP dont remove the posses that havent been onlined or the corp is closed for like 6 month?
When they do it to the unused cans why not posses?
I found several or actually ALOT of posses in hs that has one owner and hasent been onlined just sitting at a moon an oqpie it?
Why?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#2 - 2013-08-20 20:18:42 UTC
Had you used Google you would have seen evidence of about 8 years of Threadnaughts of this very question. Sorry.

War Dec the owners and blow up the dead POSes. Simple as that.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Eric Raeder
No Fee Too High
#3 - 2013-08-20 20:39:32 UTC
Apparently because the game code that supports POSes is a nightmare of old obsolete poorly structured code that builds upon other old code such as rat behavior AI ( apparently used to run defense guns). CCP programmers look at the mess in horror and are very reluctant to add to it. CCP seems to have a long range plan to eventually do away with the current POS system and replace it with a completely new form of player owned space stations. Unfortunately, there is no way of knowing when this will happen.
Caerfinon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-08-20 22:51:49 UTC
If CPP removes old POS then RVB couldn't run a protection racket, err.... I mean a POS Removal Service

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2876503

Reasonable rates :)

Cheers C.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2013-08-21 14:29:13 UTC
Some friends took down an offline medium using one Dominix (sentry drones) and 3 faction-fit Coercers (pulse lasers).

It doesn't take much.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#6 - 2013-08-21 15:57:18 UTC
Eric Raeder wrote:
CCP programmers look at the mess in horror and are very reluctant to add to it.



........and then decide to divert time instead to developing and working on other totally non EVE related things like EVE:Valkyrie.

I'm just sayin'.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Auferre
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-08-21 16:04:45 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Eric Raeder wrote:
CCP programmers look at the mess in horror and are very reluctant to add to it.



........and then decide to divert time instead to developing and working on other totally non EVE related things like EVE:Valkyrie.

I'm just sayin'.



If I had a choice between going through old incomprehensible code and playing with an Oculus Rift in my spare time, I'd choose the second option too.
Robbin Sund
#8 - 2013-08-23 11:13:01 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Eric Raeder wrote:
CCP programmers look at the mess in horror and are very reluctant to add to it.



........and then decide to divert time instead to developing and working on other totally non EVE related things like EVE:Valkyrie.

I'm just sayin'.


You sure there is the same guys that work on those things?
Could be you know, other people, that are in charge of other stuff, that had time over. ;)

One way trip! Why dont you drive?
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-08-23 11:15:23 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Eric Raeder wrote:
CCP programmers look at the mess in horror and are very reluctant to add to it.



........and then decide to divert time instead to developing and working on other totally non EVE related things like EVE:Valkyrie.

I'm just sayin'.


There are only so many people you can throw at a software project without diminishing returns in terms of end product. Usually you'll have one lead on a feature and perhaps one or two developers working with him.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#10 - 2013-08-23 11:24:32 UTC
Auferre wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Eric Raeder wrote:
CCP programmers look at the mess in horror and are very reluctant to add to it.



........and then decide to divert time instead to developing and working on other totally non EVE related things like EVE:Valkyrie.

I'm just sayin'.



If I had a choice between going through old incomprehensible code and playing with an Oculus Rift in my spare time, I'd choose the second option too.



But is that a good business decision ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#11 - 2013-08-23 11:25:35 UTC
Robbin Sund wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Eric Raeder wrote:
CCP programmers look at the mess in horror and are very reluctant to add to it.



........and then decide to divert time instead to developing and working on other totally non EVE related things like EVE:Valkyrie.

I'm just sayin'.


You sure there is the same guys that work on those things?
Could be you know, other people, that are in charge of other stuff, that had time over. ;)



I believe they all work for CCP.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-08-23 12:50:54 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
There are only so many people you can throw at a software project without diminishing returns in terms of end product.


This. Doubling the developers on a feature does not necessarily mean it'll get done faster. Definitely won't get done in half the time. Might be a bit faster, might be the same, might be slower.

Sooo many managers I've had the 'pleasure' of working with that didn't understand this.
Anako Assene
Seekers of The Holy Grail
#13 - 2013-08-23 15:42:08 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:

Sooo many managers I've had the 'pleasure' of working with that didn't understand this.


Unfortunately many managers think that if they hire 9 women, they will give birth to a baby in 1 month.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-08-23 15:49:59 UTC
Tell me about it.

I had one manager, when given a time estimate of 10 days, for a dev that worked 3 days a week and was going on leave the following week, set the deadline at 10 calendar days time....

He could not understand why the developer was pissed off by that.
Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-08-23 16:43:52 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
There are only so many people you can throw at a software project without diminishing returns in terms of end product.


This. Doubling the developers on a feature does not necessarily mean it'll get done faster. Definitely won't get done in half the time. Might be a bit faster, might be the same, might be slower.

Sooo many managers I've had the 'pleasure' of working with that didn't understand this.

It is called Brook's Law: "adding manpower to a late software project makes it later" and was written about in his book The Mythical Man-Month in 1975. Every project mismanager since then has always claimed "this time it is different".
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#16 - 2013-08-24 05:52:29 UTC
Cry Now wrote:
the corp is closed for like 6 month?


Those you can file a petition to have a GM remove them, since there's nobody to wardec, and no way for them to recover the POS anyway.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-08-24 13:09:21 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
There are only so many people you can throw at a software project without diminishing returns in terms of end product.


This. Doubling the developers on a feature does not necessarily mean it'll get done faster. Definitely won't get done in half the time. Might be a bit faster, might be the same, might be slower.

on the other hand Eve Online has lots of "features" which would like to get some attention from developers

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"