Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is probably already been brought up sometime before, and I in no way pretend I would be able to map out the minute details of this system (nor I think would CCP want to go with my detail-oriented idea. they'd want the creative freedom to themselves).

There's a few of us out there who are sitting on too much ISK than we know what to do with, and I personally would love the idea of being able to invest in corperations, alliances, people etc.

At the moment you have to trust the person you're giving the ISK to, and for me, I only trust people within punching range.

So, a system where we can invest ISK without having to trust a random stranger to do the right thing sounds nice, y'know.

The best you might one day get is the stock system for in-game corps actually meaning something but that's still going to require some level of trust.

As a rule there should never be a completely NPC driven method of making ISK.

Make alts... apply for loans... get money... transfer ISK... biomass.

The problem with mechanics based investments is that there really is no way to scam-proof it.

Hell... we used to have a form of contracts called "Loan" (basically put up an item for collateral, get ISK for a certain period of time)... but it was removed some years ago because it was seldom used for anything but scamming.

For more information... look up EVE Intergalactic Bank ("EIB") and what happened to it (I recommend the Cracked.com article).

I already have the ISK. I just think it'd be cool if I could help other people out without knowing 99.9% of the time people will just be dicks and take it without repaying. is that too much to ask?

Chaos and anarchy don't necessarily make the best sandbox environment.



I'm no game designer, so I won't pretend to figure out how you might develop a system that isn't fool proof. but perhaps CCP can take the general idea on board and come up with something inventive, or at least with compromises.

It sure does, but at the same time it can also become predictable. If people don't have to pay you back, they won't. It's not interesting in this instance because people just end up getting abused and scammed. It might be fun for those who abuse/scam, but ultimately in the end it'd be great to have a mechanic for this so we can do it without fearing the worst.

Enlighten me, perhaps.

My understanding of it is that investors are legally protected by law against fraud ( see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investment_protection ). The high risk in investment, be it venture capitalism or angel investors, is the risk of whether or not the idea/company fails, not whether or not John Doe decided to take your money.

I'm happy to keep in the risk of fraud as long as there are severe punishments for fraud.

Sure, people could use alts that mean nothing and biomass them, but if you're investing in something it'd be safe and smart to understand the rules, or laws, surrounding investment so you don't get burnt.

If fraud is to be allowed in this system, I would prefer it to be very undesirable, like it is in real life.

I don't think you understand how investments work.