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Electronic Attack Frigates

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Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#1 - 2013-08-23 04:39:05 UTC
Electronic Attack Frigates (EAFs) are very cool ships that are not used nearly enough outside of the Alliance Tournament. This was not helped by the T1 cruiser rebalance which left the disruption cruisers in a very nice place. I propose giving EAFs a nice role bonus that (A) is well suited to their intended role and (B) will make them much more attractive, especially in larger battles.

EAF Role Bonus: Able to equip "Gang Link Dampener" modules

[Gang Link Dampener I]
This module, which can only be equipped by electronic attack frigates, is able to reduce the effectiveness of gang link bonuses being received by the targeted ship. Note: It only affects the targeted ship, not the entire enemy fleet.
  • Gang link bonus mutator: 0.85x
  • High slot module
  • PG: 5
  • CPU: 30
  • Range: 50 km (modified by existing ewar skills e.g. long range jamming)
  • Only 1 of these modules may be fitted per EAF
  • Normal stacking penalties apply

  • [Gang Link Dampener II]
    This module, which can only be equipped by electronic attack frigates, is able to reduce the effectiveness of gang link bonuses being received by the targeted ship. Note: It only affects the targeted ship, not the entire enemy fleet.
  • Gang link bonus mutator: 0.75x
  • High slot module
  • PG: 8
  • CPU: 40
  • Range: 55 km (modified by existing ewar skills e.g. long range jamming)
  • Only 1 of these modules may be fitted per EAF
  • Normal stacking penalties apply


  • Even without stacking penalties, these modules can never completely counteract the gang link bonuses of an enemy ship. They will act as a force multiplier. There is even scope for creating one of these modules for each type of gang link e.g. "Omni Gang Link Dampener", "Siege Gang Link Dampener", "Skirmish Gang Link Dampener", etc...

    All the numbers above are balance points, I simply chose some that seemed reasonable.

    Pros
  • Increase versatility (and hopefully popularity) of EAF ships
  • Provide direct counter to gang links for small gangs for whom bringing a link ship isn't viable.
  • Something useful to put in the high slot of an EAF

  • Cons
  • Might make EAFs over powered

  • Workarounds
  • Employ game developers to resolve balance issues

  • Post your thoughts and feeling or any other ideas for the future of EAFs. Big smile

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    Rowells
    Pator Tech School
    Minmatar Republic
    #2 - 2013-08-23 11:01:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Rowells
    i kinda wish my hyena had the normal T2 minmatar resists. for some reason it got the same treatment as the sleipner did (before 1.1)

    E: after a second look, the hyena (and other EAF) need some serious lovin
    Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
    Republic Military Tax Avoiders
    #3 - 2013-08-23 11:32:48 UTC
    Rowells wrote:
    i kinda wish my hyena had the normal T2 minmatar resists. for some reason it got the same treatment as the sleipner did (before 1.1)

    E: after a second look, the hyena (and other EAF) need some serious lovin

    Well, Hyena is an oddball even within EAF group: slow, no tank, and strange set of bonuses. I wonder if i even saw one flying in space...

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    Harvey James
    The Sengoku Legacy
    #4 - 2013-08-23 11:51:57 UTC
    Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris wrote:
    Rowells wrote:
    i kinda wish my hyena had the normal T2 minmatar resists. for some reason it got the same treatment as the sleipner did (before 1.1)

    E: after a second look, the hyena (and other EAF) need some serious lovin

    Well, Hyena is an oddball even within EAF group: slow, no tank, and strange set of bonuses. I wonder if i even saw one flying in space...


    its a shame the Hyena could be a nice mini Huginn..... give it the 50% mwd bonus and it could zip around webbing things willy nilly but it needs more slots and tank/speed. and some missile damage bonuses would be nice.

    I like the link counter idea .. put it on the primary and weaken its tank a fair bit.

    Sentinel and Keres could become droneboats and the kitsune could get a missile velocity bonus to make it a LM boat.

    T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

    ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

    Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using

    Sura Sadiva
    Entropic Tactical Crew
    #5 - 2013-08-23 12:14:25 UTC
    Would be nice for EAF to have them with covops cloack and rebalanced to be like mini-recon
    Mole Guy
    Bob's Bait and Tackle
    #6 - 2013-08-23 13:41:46 UTC
    since, in theory, gang bonuses are derived from communication with a leader, interrupting that signal would interfere with gang bonuses. this is a very useful idea.

    as to the hyena, i love that boat. dual webs, 24k point....mwd. i sit in the middle of a gate and lock down anything that jumps in and then orbit with mwd. of course, i dont hunt solo, but the other folks with me kill it. but the hyena itself is bitchen.
    i prefer the bonuses on the sentinnel tho. tracking/nos/neut.
    Ix Method
    Doomheim
    #7 - 2013-08-23 13:44:51 UTC
    This is a really solid idea. Suppose the main question is would this role follow through to the Recons?

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    Harvey James
    The Sengoku Legacy
    #8 - 2013-08-23 13:49:14 UTC
    Ix Method wrote:
    This is a really solid idea. Suppose the main question is would this role follow through to the Recons?


    no need Recons are very strong if not OP as they are in terms of their e-war bonuses.... EAF need something to give people a reason to train them so a unique bonus would make sense

    T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

    ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

    Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using

    Vassal Zeren
    University of Caille
    Gallente Federation
    #9 - 2013-08-23 23:18:37 UTC
    Sura Sadiva wrote:
    Would be nice for EAF to have them with covops cloack and rebalanced to be like mini-recon


    Nahh don't give em covert cloak. Just buff them and make them like combat recon ships.

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