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Deadspace Weapons?
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#1 - 2013-08-21 17:59:57 UTC
It would be nice to see the Deadspace modules expanded to include weapons. There needs to be something beyond T2/Faction in the small, medium and large range (or at least small and medium, as officer does cover large).

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Mole Guy
Bob's Bait and Tackle
#2 - 2013-08-21 19:24:42 UTC
i agree +1

ive always wondered that. and why cant the officer weapons (since they are modified) use t2 crystals?
you would see ALOT more on pew ships if they did...

i know i had some brokara (sp) mega pulse on my paladin and they shredded. close range only because of no scorch, but anything in range was hurt badly.

we need a better selection
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#3 - 2013-08-21 21:26:43 UTC
Mole Guy wrote:
ive always wondered that. and why cant the officer weapons (since they are modified) use t2 crystals?
you would see ALOT more on pew ships if they did...


That's a really good question, and I agree - officer modules should be able to use T2 ammunition. I also think Faction and (potentially) Deadspace weapons should be able to use T2 ammunition as well, because they still lose out on the specialization bonuses.

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Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#4 - 2013-08-21 21:32:12 UTC
T2 ammo for officer weapons yes
T2 ammo faction guns no
deadspace weapons sure why not T2 ammo maybe

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#5 - 2013-08-21 21:49:23 UTC
Ellendras Silver wrote:
T2 ammo for officer weapons yes
T2 ammo faction guns no
deadspace weapons sure why not T2 ammo maybe


I'd be fine with Deadspace ammo, too.

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Cyrus Alabel
Azure Wrath
#6 - 2013-08-21 22:29:59 UTC
Mole Guy wrote:
i agree +1
ive always wondered that. and why cant the officer weapons (since they are modified) use t2 crystals?
you would see ALOT more on pew ships if they did...


Because in the grand idea of balance, faction/deadspace modules and ships (where applicable) are straight improvements on T1. T2 is for specialization, hence your specialized ships (e.g. Taranis) and ammo (null, void, etc.).

Incidentally, T3 is for customization, by CCP's current design.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#7 - 2013-08-21 22:44:44 UTC
Cyrus Alabel wrote:
Because in the grand idea of balance, faction/deadspace modules and ships (where applicable) are straight improvements on T1. T2 is for specialization, hence your specialized ships (e.g. Taranis) and ammo (null, void, etc.).

Incidentally, T3 is for customization, by CCP's current design.


A "straight improvement" over T1 for Deadspace modules might be a bit of an understatement... Guess we need Deadspace ammo.

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Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#8 - 2013-08-21 23:42:15 UTC
Deadspace ammo I could sort of see.

Rename DG ammo to pithor as an example, let it drop from DG rats at a significantly increased rate over now. Perhaps make it a LP store item? (extremely hard to balance IMO this is not meant to be stuff you can just casually walk up and buy)

As an incentive to use (or buy) this stuff it could have secondary characteristics like T2 ammo but in a different way. WIth fewer types of deadspace ammo over faction you could look at something like...

Pithor Uranium: This advanced pirate ammo uses sophisticated magnetic field technology to create an EM burst upon impact. 25% EM 25% Thermal 50% kinetic damage.
Pithor tungsten: This advanced pirate ammo uses a tungsten tipped explosive round that cavitates upon impact. 65% kinetic, 15% thermal, 20% Explosive.

Just as examples.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#9 - 2013-09-10 01:17:18 UTC
Some Deadspace damage modules wouldn't hurt, either.

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Ravasta Helugo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-09-10 02:12:40 UTC
I support Deadspace weapons.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#11 - 2013-09-10 10:52:07 UTC
Inb4 vindi with officer guns and void.
3k dps Roll

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#12 - 2013-10-17 02:41:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Time to resurrect this... in lieu of the new quarterly update feature for EVE, can we finally start looking at some more powerful Deadspace weapons? DPS is not a bad thing! Everything from weapon controllers and upgrades to small to medium-sized (and possibly large and capital?) weapon systems. They should fall somewhere between current Faction and Officer abilities, and enhance the medium set (for which there is nothing currently more powerful than Faction). And Officer weapons should be able to use T2 ammo if so desired.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#13 - 2013-10-17 03:24:16 UTC
Arya Regnar wrote:
Inb4 vindi with officer guns and void.
3k dps Roll

Also inb4 gankers.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#14 - 2013-10-17 03:31:04 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Arya Regnar wrote:
Inb4 vindi with officer guns and void.
3k dps Roll

Also inb4 gankers.

Gank Tornados with officer weapons for the win. Lol

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-10-17 03:55:58 UTC
If they offered a distinct advantage over t1 and faction while not taking away the specialzation of T2 I could get behind them.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#16 - 2013-10-17 04:30:54 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
If they offered a distinct advantage over t1 and faction while not taking away the specialzation of T2 I could get behind them.

Of course. More powerful, more expensive. Still above Faction but below the highest Officer equivalent. Example: A Gistum series of ballistic controllers that does 13%, 13.5% and 14% damage (10% ROF) while the Pithum series perhaps does 11%, 12% and 12.5% rate of fire instead (10% damage).

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-10-17 05:32:17 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
If they offered a distinct advantage over t1 and faction while not taking away the specialzation of T2 I could get behind them.

Of course. More powerful, more expensive. Still above Faction but below the highest Officer equivalent. Example: A Gistum series of ballistic controllers that does 13%, 13.5% and 14% damage (10% ROF) while the Pithum series perhaps does 11%, 12% and 12.5% rate of fire instead (10% damage).

It would not necessarily need to be increased damage it could be better tracking, optimal/falloff, larger charge capacity, or easier fitting requirements.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#18 - 2013-10-17 06:00:31 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
If they offered a distinct advantage over t1 and faction while not taking away the specialzation of T2 I could get behind them.

Of course. More powerful, more expensive. Still above Faction but below the highest Officer equivalent. Example: A Gistum series of ballistic controllers that does 13%, 13.5% and 14% damage (10% ROF) while the Pithum series perhaps does 11%, 12% and 12.5% rate of fire instead (10% damage).

It would not necessarily need to be increased damage it could be better tracking, optimal/falloff, larger charge capacity, or easier fitting requirements.

I want more DPS.

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TehCloud
Guardians of the Dodixie
#19 - 2013-10-17 08:50:37 UTC
No Deadspace Ammo - Faction is enough. We don't need Pith A-Type Phased Plasma L.

Deadspace Guns. I don't think those would be a great addition and if they ever were added they should by no means be able to use T2 Ammo.

Officer Guns using T2 Ammo is okay.

My Condor costs less than that module!
Sarah Stallman
Pen2 Logistics
#20 - 2013-10-17 10:27:02 UTC
Officer weapons able to use T2 ammo is actually a pretty nice middle ground. The gun itself requires T1 skills, but T2 ammo requires specialization. So it'd be a hefty sum to put down while training a particular gun size, but it rewards you for the purchase by allowing you to apply your specialization skills later.

This is good for people flying more expensive ships, which means I can sell more stuff. I approve of this plan.
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