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Miner Ganking again
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Edwin McAlister
Empire Hooligans
#1 - 2013-08-21 13:04:59 UTC
Be advised.. gankers have a new tactic.. (might be old tactic, I been deployed and only recently got back)

A 700 dps gal destroyer...

Fit your ships accordingly to defend yourself (Ken/Therm)

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/57336-Catalyst-700-DPS-Suicide-Gank.html

its a nasty bugger.. caught me off guard.. ive learned and adjusted

buggers have been showing up in pairs lately as well

Ed
Alexander Eisenhower
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-08-21 13:24:28 UTC
Edwin McAlister wrote:
Be advised.. gankers have a new tactic.. (might be old tactic, I been deployed and only recently got back)

A 700 dps gal destroyer...

Fit your ships accordingly to defend yourself (Ken/Therm)

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/57336-Catalyst-700-DPS-Suicide-Gank.html

its a nasty bugger.. caught me off guard.. ive learned and adjusted

buggers have been showing up in pairs lately as well

Ed



WB! Looks like a cookie cutter ganker to me. There are 2 basic tactics to tank the gank. My personal preference in HS is to undercut the tank. Fly a retriever that is so cheap you can have 3 of them lined up in your hanger. It costs the ganker about as much time and isk to gank it as he earns. Sorry, i dont have specific data.

There other approach is to sacrifice some yield in order to acheive sustainable tank. There are alot of good builds out there. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216981&find=unread .

If you want to be super safe, the skiff is by far the best choice.

Good luck and Fly Safe!
Edwin McAlister
Empire Hooligans
#3 - 2013-08-21 13:28:23 UTC
ive went with the option to sacrifice yield for survivability and drastically increased my tank with passive/active hardeners .. and since I fly with a couple friends... 2 hulks, 1 orca... we run rep drones on each other as well... its working.. so far.. had a couple jump in.. apparently scan us then jump out

Ed
Jarrod Hamu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-08-21 14:44:33 UTC
I had a conversation with one of them in local one day after I had bounced off two planets and back to the same belt. :)

They frown on miners that harvest the whole belt or take too much from the belt at one time. However they have told me that they will gank me to teach me a lession that I should not take too much from the belt. ???
Fly it like you stole it.
Edwin McAlister
Empire Hooligans
#5 - 2013-08-21 14:49:42 UTC
I do not bother talking with them, they usually try and talk trash.. I ignore them.. (oddly enough, ignoring them irks them quite a bit at times)
Jarrod Hamu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-08-21 15:24:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarrod Hamu
Edwin McAlister wrote:
I do not bother talking with them, they usually try and talk trash.. I ignore them.. (oddly enough, ignoring them irks them quite a bit at times)


Telling them how much I would lose and how much more I have to mine to make it back is one to get them going as well.
Fly it like you stole it.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#7 - 2013-08-22 06:57:12 UTC
Confirming that we are monitoring this thread.

And confirming that I need to train a Thrasher gank pilot for disposing of unwanted miners that understand kinetic/therm resists.


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Sasha Rama
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-08-22 17:23:31 UTC
All the fits you need for tanking industrials. It reads like a menu, pick what looks good to you, what you qualify for, and what you can afford, fit it, and your golden.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216981&find=unread
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
#9 - 2013-08-24 16:56:47 UTC
Edwin McAlister wrote:
Be advised.. gankers have a new tactic.. (might be old tactic, I been deployed and only recently got back)

A 700 dps gal destroyer...

Fit your ships accordingly to defend yourself (Ken/Therm)

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/57336-Catalyst-700-DPS-Suicide-Gank.html

its a nasty bugger.. caught me off guard.. ive learned and adjusted

buggers have been showing up in pairs lately as well

Ed


A T2 fit Catalyst used for suicide ganking is nothing new. I'm not sure why there are T2 drones on there though as there wouldn't time for drones to attack during a suicide gank.

You don't say what you are flying but if you were in a Hulk or Mackinaw with a 'proper' tank fitted a single T2 Catalyst would not succeed in taking you down. For some suicide gankers currently the ISK cost to them is of no concern and up to seven T1 fit Catalysts are being used to take down one mining vessel. You're best weapon is good location/s and good local intelligence with your eyes kept peeled. Smile

" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. " Rick. " Find out what ? " Abraham. " They're screwing with the wrong people. " Rick. Season four.   ' The Walking Dead. ' .
Dave stark
#10 - 2013-08-24 17:07:29 UTC
or you could just move a few jumps out and nobody is going to even bother looking at you, meaning you don't need to sacrifice yield, or cheap ships.

it's amazing that people would rather earn less isk/hour than move a few jumps over.
Antony E Stark
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-08-26 21:48:17 UTC
Mine in a mega, fitted fully with lasers, expanders, expander rigs and a shield tank in the mids.
When they arrive, tell them your fit.
This is the best troll ever and drives them crazy.
Fit ECM burst for extra trollage
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-08-28 01:07:08 UTC
Edwin McAlister wrote:
Be advised.. gankers have a new tactic.. (might be old tactic, I been deployed and only recently got back)

A 700 dps gal destroyer...

Fit your ships accordingly to defend yourself (Ken/Therm)

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/57336-Catalyst-700-DPS-Suicide-Gank.html

its a nasty bugger.. caught me off guard.. ive learned and adjusted

buggers have been showing up in pairs lately as well

Ed


Were you deployed for 2 years?

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Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#13 - 2013-08-28 05:09:16 UTC
My only free tip. If you are in a group, don't fly the shiniest target. We seem the be the greedy bunch. I love seeing hulks pop myself. Twisted

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#14 - 2013-08-28 05:21:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Shederov Blood
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:
I'm not sure why there are T2 drones on there though as there wouldn't time for drones to attack during a suicide gank.
Confirming that 15-20 seconds is not enough time to launch drones and press a hotkey.

Who put the goat in there?
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#15 - 2013-08-28 05:33:23 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
or you could just move a few jumps out and nobody is going to even bother looking at you, meaning you don't need to sacrifice yield, or cheap ships.

it's amazing that people would rather earn less isk/hour than move a few jumps over.



What makes you think that miner euthanists do not hunt from system to system?

I have four preferred systems in Sinq Laison, but have no hesitations travelling to seven others that I can think of now and often do so. And that's just in one region.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-08-28 10:02:13 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:
I'm not sure why there are T2 drones on there though as there wouldn't time for drones to attack during a suicide gank.
Confirming that 15-20 seconds is not enough time to launch drones and press a hotkey.

Especially in a boat that no longer has a drone bay since it's been rebalanced.

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]
Ressiv
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-08-28 10:30:01 UTC
Jarrod Hamu wrote:
I had a conversation with one of them in local one day after I had bounced off two planets and back to the same belt. :)

They frown on miners that harvest the whole belt or take too much from the belt at one time. However they have told me that they will gank me to teach me a lession that I should not take too much from the belt. ???

You should see the belt as an organism ... take too much, you die.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-08-28 10:55:24 UTC
Confirming that I am also monitoring this thread for a possible future war.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-08-28 13:46:43 UTC
Antony E Stark wrote:
Fit ECM burst for extra trollage

YEAH that'll teach 'em!
Courath Al'viendi
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-08-28 15:17:30 UTC
Just get a bunch of cloaky friends, when they engage go LULZ and kill them, scoop loot, continue on.
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