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Question about Cyno's

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Kenji Eyrou
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-08-21 06:01:58 UTC
I have read up and got a general idea about cyno's, who uses them, who can light them, etc...

However I did some searching about Covert Cyno's and couldn't find the info anywhere.

My question is: Can people that use cyno fields to jump use the covert cyno field? Conversely can the Black Ops ships use regular cyno fields?

Example: I have a JF and want to jump into a system that is lit by a fleetmate's ship using Covert Cyno Field Gen. Can I use it or only Black Ops ships use it?
Jack Miton
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-08-21 06:11:53 UTC
only blops can use covert. they can also use normal (im pretty sure).

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Brothership Of EVE
#3 - 2013-08-21 06:43:29 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
only blops can use covert. they can also use normal (im pretty sure).

Actually to take it a step further, any ship that can effectively fit the covert ops cloacking device can jump to a covert cyno.

Covert T3s
Covert Ops
Recons
Transports
Black Ops BSs

can all jump to a lighted covert cyno

another interesting fact, a black ops bs can open its portal in high sec.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#4 - 2013-08-21 06:45:57 UTC
BLOPS can Jump or Bridge to Covert or Normal Cynos and Cyno Gens.
Everything else with a Jump Drive/Bridge can only use Normal Cynos and Cyno Gens.


Light a proper station cyno with your own alt for your JF. Always*.



*Unless you know exactly why you're doing it and there's no way to avoid it.

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Zane Maruff
Red DUST Industries.
#5 - 2013-08-21 06:48:35 UTC
Imminent Doom wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
only blops can use covert. they can also use normal (im pretty sure).

Actually to take it a step further, any ship that can effectively fit the covert ops cloacking device can jump to a covert cyno.


Nope.

Quote:
Covert T3s
Covert Ops
Recons
Transports
Black Ops BSs
can all jump to a lighted covert cyno
Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope, Yes

Quote:
another interesting fact, a black ops bs can open its portal in high sec.

Yes


The only ships that can *jump* to a covert cyno are Black Ops battleships.

black ops battleships can, however, open a jump portal that ships with a covert ops cloak (or, rather, capable of FITTING a covert ops cloak, they don't need to fit it to use it) can use to jump through to the destination.

It is possible to OPEN the portal in High Sec, you can't have the exit area in high sec.

The covert cyno bypasses cynojammed systems.

Black Ops ships can also jump to a normal cyno and they can open a bridge through to a normal cyno but the above restrictions still apply.

To answer the OP - your jump freighter cannot.
Gogela
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#6 - 2013-08-21 07:04:45 UTC
Zane Maruff wrote:
Imminent Doom wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
only blops can use covert. they can also use normal (im pretty sure).

Actually to take it a step further, any ship that can effectively fit the covert ops cloacking device can jump to a covert cyno.


Nope.

Quote:
Covert T3s
Covert Ops
Recons
Transports
Black Ops BSs
can all jump to a lighted covert cyno
Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope, Yes

Quote:
another interesting fact, a black ops bs can open its portal in high sec.

Yes


The only ships that can *jump* to a covert cyno are Black Ops battleships.

black ops battleships can, however, open a jump portal that ships with a covert ops cloak (or, rather, capable of FITTING a covert ops cloak, they don't need to fit it to use it) can use to jump through to the destination.

It is possible to OPEN the portal in High Sec, you can't have the exit area in high sec.

The covert cyno bypasses cynojammed systems.

Black Ops ships can also jump to a normal cyno and they can open a bridge through to a normal cyno but the above restrictions still apply.

To answer the OP - your jump freighter cannot.

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#7 - 2013-08-21 10:16:09 UTC  |  Edited by: seth Hendar
Imminent Doom wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
only blops can use covert. they can also use normal (im pretty sure).

Actually to take it a step further, any ship that can effectively fit the covert ops cloacking device can jump to a covert cyno.

Covert T3s
Covert Ops
Recons
Transports
Black Ops BSs

can all jump to a lighted covert cyno

another interesting fact, a black ops bs can open its portal in high sec.

little additions

the black ops cannot use a covert cloack, but CAN bridge / jump to a covert cyno

it is not required to have a covert cloack fitted, just having a ship that CAN fit it, excption for the black ops (meaning t3s need the correct sub)

to jump to a covert cyno, requires a black ops to open a bridge first, only black ops can jump to it by themselve

and last thing, black ops can bridge / jump to both covert and regular cynos
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
#8 - 2013-08-21 10:52:34 UTC
Kenji Eyrou wrote:
I have read up and got a general idea about cyno's, who uses them, who can light them, etc...

However I did some searching about Covert Cyno's and couldn't find the info anywhere.

My question is: Can people that use cyno fields to jump use the covert cyno field? Conversely can the Black Ops ships use regular cyno fields?

Example: I have a JF and want to jump into a system that is lit by a fleetmate's ship using Covert Cyno Field Gen. Can I use it or only Black Ops ships use it?


not sure who light them, but I'm the one who turns them off

thats all you need to know
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#9 - 2013-08-21 15:38:32 UTC
A question about cyno's what? Shocked

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#10 - 2013-08-21 16:10:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
Harry Forever wrote:
Kenji Eyrou wrote:
I have read up and got a general idea about cyno's, who uses them, who can light them, etc...

However I did some searching about Covert Cyno's and couldn't find the info anywhere.

My question is: Can people that use cyno fields to jump use the covert cyno field? Conversely can the Black Ops ships use regular cyno fields?

Example: I have a JF and want to jump into a system that is lit by a fleetmate's ship using Covert Cyno Field Gen. Can I use it or only Black Ops ships use it?


not sure who light them, but I'm the one who turns them off

thats all you need to know

lol
He's the one that speeds up the return of the cyno alt. But only sometimes, and he usually loses a ship doing it.
EDIT: Oh and i don't think he know about covert ones yet. One that doesn't give him a direct warp in on his overview?!?!?! BLASPHEMY!

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Kenji Eyrou
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-08-22 00:00:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Kenji Eyrou
Thanks to everyone who posted and commented! To reply:

Another thing I'm wondering about is bridging. From the comments, I'm under the impression that a Black Ops ship can bridge to the Covert Cyno and then ships with jump drives could then use that bridge to jump into the covert cyno? I need to do some more research though.

Although I do remember the story of a null sec alliance war where a Titan pilot accidentally hit "Jump" instead of "Bridge". Lol Oh to hear the comms...

@ Anabella Rella: I did that specifically to annoy you don't you know... Twisted
(Actually I was posting on my phone and I think my phone autocorrected it to "cyno's"... lol)
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#12 - 2013-08-22 03:11:32 UTC
Kenji Eyrou wrote:
Another thing I'm wondering about is bridging. From the comments, I'm under the impression that a Black Ops ship can bridge to the Covert Cyno and then ships with jump drives could then use that bridge to jump into the covert cyno? I need to do some more research though.


No. Bridging allows ships with no jump drive to travel.

Quote:
Although I do remember the story of a null sec alliance war where a Titan pilot accidentally hit "Jump" instead of "Bridge". Lol Oh to hear the comms...


Happens all the time. Most of the time nothing much happens.

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seth Hendar
I love you miners
#13 - 2013-08-22 08:23:37 UTC
Kenji Eyrou wrote:
Thanks to everyone who posted and commented! To reply:

Another thing I'm wondering about is bridging. From the comments, I'm under the impression that a Black Ops ship can bridge to the Covert Cyno and then ships with jump drives could then use that bridge to jump into the covert cyno? I need to do some more research though.

Although I do remember the story of a null sec alliance war where a Titan pilot accidentally hit "Jump" instead of "Bridge". Lol Oh to hear the comms...

@ Anabella Rella: I did that specifically to annoy you don't you know... Twisted
(Actually I was posting on my phone and I think my phone autocorrected it to "cyno's"... lol)

not exacly

a bridge will be opened to a cyno, THEN ships can go through and land on the cyno.

bridging ship is the entry, cyno is the exit (see this as a gate).

now two kind of bridges:

1- the titan, can use regular cyno only, but can make ANY ship jump through

2- the black ops, can use BOTH cyno, bat can only make covert capable ship go through (those are listed earlier)

capital ships can jump themselves to regular cyno, since they have jump drives

black ops can jump himself to both because of its specialized jump drive