Crime & Punishment

take a look at the ccp fanfest videos, there are people of ALL KINDS playing Eve =P

That's not quite how it happened.

Cosmoray's corp shares were used to give me the majority vote required to unlock the Titan BPOs.

Absolutely.

It's on the same tune of believing someone having characters called Chtulu, Thor and similar, has to have connections with something else famous / brand / singer etc.
Sure, it *can* happen and post-fact hindsight is always fantastic at spotting those things.

At the time I don't recall you or someone else spotting the coincidence and even if the supposed connection had been spotted, guess how many proofs do you have to prove that for real someone applied it in game? Are you going to call to jury someone in EvE for naming characters in a way you believe they are connected to something?


Example: a guy called Acclaim talks me about a guy called Polyol. Am I going to assume they are the same guy *and call them publicly out becaues of this*, because in Bayer catalog they are one product?

So the idea here is that because one infamous scammer turned out to be immoral IRL all Eve scammers are immoral IRL?

1) Nice test pool. One guy. Very scientific. Surely this settles the matter. *sarcasm*
2) I too can tell stories. Proof or GTFO. Where's the link to the news story about the guy who cut down a telephone pole?

I think that people who buy into the theory that "people who act 'badly' in Eve are bad people IRL" are just butthurt and look to sooth their bruised egos after being outsmarted. "I'm not stupid, I'm moral". LOL Keep telling yourselves that. You played a game, the rules were known, and you LOST. Get over it.

IF this story is true (huge IF) then what it really goes to prove is that people who are really good at a video game are a bit "off" in some circumstances. Poor social skills. Even though they might be highly intelligent, they can be a bit mentally skewed. Cutting down a telephone pole in protest does not speak to morality as much as it does to mental health. Simply put, the guy's a nut. A smart nut, but a nut.

People who mine in eve are more likely to end up in a career that focuses on mindless repetitive tasks.



People who are criminals in eve are more likely to be criminals in real life.



eve = real life



The preceding post is false.

a) Horrible story and I hope it's not true.

b) The tone of the OP is the kind of thing in EvE that leaves an extremely bad taste in my mouth.

c) I had always assumed that Cosmo was a yank (he called swearing 'cursing'). (edit - On the other hand, 'Got drunk, puked in the street' makes Portsmouth seem entirely plausible.)

d) If Cosmo and Riethe were the same person I would be amazed. It is, of course, possible but that would mark him as by far the most impressive actor (or schizophrenic) I have encountered in the game.

e) I find the whole 'master of scams' thing a little implausible on the whole given how clumsy his final attempted and failed scam was (the 100bil he tried and failed to raise just before he bailed).

f) Great detective work Mme P! I've really missed that kind of input on MD.

I have been asked to step in and give some information about this thread. I know Cosmoray in real life and we play in an over 40 5-a-side football league.

The story about the pole being cut down happened to a guy's son playing in our league but not to Cosmoray, but it has taken on an urban legend feel on a few forums. I discussed this thread with him last night and he sent this e-mail which he asked me to post on his behalf.

This is a direct quote from Cosmoray, and I will not answer questions about it or make any comments.

"To Nerdy, nice try you will have to better than that. For the record I have not played Eve for two years and have no characters in the game or any plans to return.

I am from Portsmouth and do have a Maths PhD, and I work on mathematical models mainly for large chemical companies. All the character names I had back in 2006-2008 came from additive names from Ciba Specialty Chemicals when I was doing contract work for them in Switzerland (Basel headquarters), I was never very artsy and placed no value on character names. My PVP names came from well known Pompey players.

My first scam was indeed Portmouth Ship Inc, but the take was only 80%, as I paid a 20% 'consultancy' fee to Ricdic (later of EBANK infamy) to help vouch for me and get investors.
The next Moon one was not me, nor was ROME0.

Cosmoray Holdings and Bonds did take about 300B in total from public and private investments. Again I paid 10% fee to Ricdic on the initial IPO and private investors he steered my way from EBANK, before he got banned.

I got bored with the game, and also some of the people in MD, namely the auditor crowd and their perfect moral holier than though character! Before going I wanted to break the auditor ideal, and chose VV as the target. It was always going to be easy as the main human presumption is that the auditor wants you to succeed as much as you do (your both in it together!).

That was my final act before giving everything away.

As to me being Riethe, I will never say!

Fly safe to all!"

There's no "moral holier than you" character, there's just being honest or not. There's no grey area here.

Anyway I am still here and not got bored to unmask shady individuals, even if it can be a rough ride and obstacles and hate are everywhere.