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Help Finding the 'right' 6 Monitor Setup

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Darthesis Tal'Sadaar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-08-20 18:53:07 UTC
Okay, I'm a new player of Eve Online, however I already work from home and have three monitors already engaged with other work related issues. Given that I would love to have Eve online to track all sorts of things in other windows, I think it's time to move on up to a 6 monitor setup.

I've hunted around and found many 'good' setups but none of brackets/arms/connectors are 'right' for me. So I come here as I figure more than a few of you have experience with multi-monitor setups and can help.

Here is my situation:

- I want a 3 monitor across by 2 monitor high setup. Small bezel 22-24" monitors seem to be the right price point. So whatever rig is recommended needs to fit up to say 60cm or so width monitors.
- I have glass desks... so NO desk mounted units. It must be wall (or ceiling) mounted. I know, this limits me and is one of the main reasons in coming here.
- I have a deep desk (36") so directly mounting the panels on the wall would be bit further away from my normal sitting position than I'd like. I'd like to have it able to extend the center panels out at least 18", more is even better.
- I want the panels to be individually adjustable at least a bit to be able to get the bezels almost touching for a better overall look AND it must be able to edge in the outer monitors (for a more surround screen experience). That angle does not need to be serious.
- The wall behind my main desk has one perfectly centered beam I can attach things to, although there are no good secondary ones, so 6 individual telescoping arms is probably not a good option.

I believe I have the hardware in the desktop to handle this on Eve without any serious issue, although my current monitors are not VESA compliant (bleh), so I'll need new monitors.

I'm looking for recommendations MOSTLY on a rig to affix all six to the wall (if it takes 2X 3 monitor rigs that's fine or whatever someone thinks is best. I know some good monitors for the task but if you have recommendations on those it would be appreciated as well.

Money isn't the primary concern although I don't want to waste money. I will have someone with more experience (handyman) level install it so it can be a bit out of he box. You'd think with all the six monitor setups out there that you could find a telescoping, wall mounted, adjustable, 6-monitor setup that can handle 23" monitors. However this has proved difficult (at least in a few hours last night).

So I thought I'd ask any experts we have in the audience here. If this is the wrong forum I apologize but I didn't see any technical advice forum, so I dropped it here.

Thank you for ANY advice in advance.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#2 - 2013-08-20 18:57:35 UTC
I take it you are not too big on outdoor activities. Smile

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Pew Terror
All of it
#3 - 2013-08-20 19:03:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Pew Terror
Id just use multiple of these fixed to the wall (http://www.ergotron.com/ProductsDetails/tabid/65/PRDID/352/language/de-DE/Default.aspx).
It allows you to set them up exactly like a 6 monitor mount, but you will thank me a lot whenever you want to change configuration or a monitor breaks (it will happen with 6) and you just wanna slap on whatever replacement until the same model arrives (if its even produced any more).

PS: 6 monitors are a waste unless you wanna brag or broker dem stocks (maybe online poker).
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4 - 2013-08-20 19:06:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Tyke Supply (Florida?) sells inexpensive but well made free-standing, bolt-to-desk, and wall-mount monitor stands. I have 2 of their 3-panel free-standing stands that support up to 27" monitors, and they also make 6-panel (Hex) ones.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#5 - 2013-08-20 19:14:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
Pew Terror wrote:
Id just use multiple of these fixed to the wall (http://www.ergotron.com/ProductsDetails/tabid/65/PRDID/352/language/de-DE/Default.aspx).
It allows you to set them up exactly like a 6 monitor mount, but you will thank me a lot whenever you want to change configuration or a monitor breaks (it will happen with 6) and you just wanna slap on whatever replacement until the same model arrives (if its even produced any more).

PS: 6 monitors are a waste unless you wanna brag or broker dem stocks (maybe online poker).

I've used ERGOTRON products - They're solid. VERY solid - maybe even industrial. Shipping charges will be noticable. On the other hand, they don't rust, bust, or take on dust.

Edit:
BTW: Their multi-monitor stuff starts here:
http://www.ergotron.com/Products/MultiMonitorMounts/tabid/159/Default.aspx
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#6 - 2013-08-20 22:23:32 UTC
I've always wanted a geekosphere that looks like the control room of a hovercraft from The Matrix.

Alas things always end up that way in the end.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

ShadowandLight
Trigger Happy Capsuleers
#7 - 2013-08-20 23:02:44 UTC
I have a 4 monitor setup...

2 down / 2 above

Frankly... I dont like the above monitors all that much.

The screens are 24" each, and the above monitors require a bit too much eye / neck travel to be comfortable....

I have my bottom monitors about 2 inches above my desk (so my keyboard clears) I could lower them a bit more but I dont think that will "fix" the issue.

T'Laar Bok
#8 - 2013-08-21 01:28:42 UTC
Get a sturdy desk and take 2 away from this. The stands are here.



Amphetimines are your friend.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/T'Laar_Bok

ashley Eoner
#9 - 2013-08-21 01:40:43 UTC
ShadowandLight wrote:
I have a 4 monitor setup...

2 down / 2 above

Frankly... I dont like the above monitors all that much.

The screens are 24" each, and the above monitors require a bit too much eye / neck travel to be comfortable....

I have my bottom monitors about 2 inches above my desk (so my keyboard clears) I could lower them a bit more but I dont think that will "fix" the issue.

Indeed mounting two rows of 24 inch monitors results in some uncomfortable moments when you have to look up and then down and then back up rapidly..

You might want to consider making your own rigging out of pipe conduit and stuff like this fellow.

https://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/home
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#10 - 2013-08-21 03:15:29 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:
ShadowandLight wrote:
I have a 4 monitor setup...

2 down / 2 above

Frankly... I dont like the above monitors all that much.

The screens are 24" each, and the above monitors require a bit too much eye / neck travel to be comfortable....

I have my bottom monitors about 2 inches above my desk (so my keyboard clears) I could lower them a bit more but I dont think that will "fix" the issue.

Indeed mounting two rows of 24 inch monitors results in some uncomfortable moments when you have to look up and then down and then back up rapidly..

You might want to consider making your own rigging out of pipe conduit and stuff like this fellow.

https://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/home

Shocked
Short Stack122
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-08-21 12:41:02 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:
ShadowandLight wrote:
I have a 4 monitor setup...

2 down / 2 above

Frankly... I dont like the above monitors all that much.

The screens are 24" each, and the above monitors require a bit too much eye / neck travel to be comfortable....

I have my bottom monitors about 2 inches above my desk (so my keyboard clears) I could lower them a bit more but I dont think that will "fix" the issue.

Indeed mounting two rows of 24 inch monitors results in some uncomfortable moments when you have to look up and then down and then back up rapidly..

You might want to consider making your own rigging out of pipe conduit and stuff like this fellow.

https://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/home

Is this heaven?
Ozmodan
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-08-21 13:29:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ozmodan
Better suggestion, go out and smell the fresh air once in while. Go for a walk or ride a bike. Go to a movie, oops scratch that, the quality of movies these days......
Ruby Pyrenne
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-08-21 14:46:58 UTC
SIX monitors. I think I'd go crazy with so much visual input around me.

I use a trusty one-monitor-setup and even though I'm tempted to go for 2, I find myself getting by perfectly fine using my iPad for any out-of-game internet purposes.

Good luck with the setup though.

  http://rubypyrenne.wordpress.com/ part III posted @ 12 sept 2013

Ned Taggart
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-08-21 15:26:29 UTC
^ seems like it would be too much for me, although I would love a 3 monitor set up. 2 monitors for the game, and one for external resources like Mumble, dotlan, EFT and Evemon. Middle one would be ship, right would be overview, D-Scan, Local, Fleet, watchlist, etc, and the left one would be all the other stuff.
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-08-21 16:42:02 UTC
you either unmarried or have a really sweet girl , i had to whine quit hard for my third monitor lol , tey are big to 103cm in widht

play with 2 accounts , each a monitor and 1 for internet/ts , or when i play war thunder or fs then i use all 3

The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back

Calico Jack Rackam
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-08-21 20:17:21 UTC
I have this exact setup and let me tell you, it is everything I dreamed it would be. (And, no people, I will not go outside. The light, it burns!) I work from home quite a lot and I play various games. In both of those activities I like to have a lot of information available at a quick glance and the "ZOMG Lot's O' Monitors" setup really works well for me.

When playing EVE I usually have my "main" client running on the lower middle and right screens. You can shift the camera centering over in the client settings so that my ship is centered up on the middle monitor. I can keep this screen fairly clear to enjoy the beautiful graphics of EVE and just have the ship controls, targets, drones and watch-list on this monitor. The right monitor contains a nice wide overview, local, dscan, chat, etc. If I'm using a second character for scouting or scanning or whatever that goes on the bottom left screen. I've also used a single client on all 3 screens of the bottom row ... but that's almost too much screen for one client. Smile I don't know what to do with all the space. My top left monitor is usually devoted to a browser (mostly for dotlan maps and to quickly look stuff up.) My top middle monitor is all my "status" type stuff. System monitoring, teamspeak, chat, itunes mini-player, world clocks, etc. That's also the monitor I keep my windows task bar on. Top right monitor is usually for some kind of online media. I'm always watching live-streams or television shows or something while I'm gaming and that stuff goes up there. With other games (FPS usually, this setup was not designed specifically for EVE) I will generally use the bottom three screens as one game screen and the top row for basically the same stuff I described above. It's nice to have a screen with a map always visible when playing something like DayZ.

Getting all this working required some planning. My first consideration was what video card setup I was going to use to drive this monstrosity. In my opinion, if you're going for more than three monitors, eyefinity (AMD cards) is the way to go. I have always been an nvidia guy but the eyefinity stuff seems to give a lot more options for multi-monitor setups. (I would advise you to do some research here if you haven't already.) I also wanted to be able to do crossfire or SLI so I really wanted to be able to have all six outputs on one card. This was about a year ago so I'm not sure if there are more options now but when I was looking there were only a couple of cards on the market with that many outputs. I went with two MSI Lightning 7970s. That card has two DVI and 4 displayport outputs on a single card.

My next consideration was screens. I decided on six Dell U2412M 24" screens. These are IPS screens, so the viewing angle on them is very nice, they're not too horribly expensive and the bezels are solid black and not that wide. They also have both DVI and displayport connections.

And now for the part you were really asking about: how to mount them. I initially went with an atdec hex-screen freestanding montior stand. This was quite a stand. It must weigh 60 pounds and appears to be made out of surplus tank parts. The horizontal supports are curved so that the monitors all face inward towards where the operator is sitting. I wanted to put this in the corner of a U shaped desk configuration and the curve wasn't quite curved enough for this to work out. I ended up with the monitors way to far from the back of the desk. I wanted to be able to push the whole setup back into the corner a bit more and the amount of curve is not adjustable. Other than that this was a beautiful stand. And if my house was to be demolished in some kind of huge explosion I have no doubt that monitor stand would have been standing, fully intact, exactly where it was afterward. But I had to send it back, much to the chagrin of my UPS guy. I replaced it with three of these from the same manufacturer. This takes up a bit more desk space but allows me to adjust the angle of the monitors however I want.

And in case anyone is wondering this all sits on top of some Ikea "Galant" desks which are fantastic. I got the wire managament baskets that hand under the desk and not a single cable touches the floor anywhere. If you want to keep the cabling coming from the monitors clean I would suggest looking for some 1" split loom tubing (google it) and a bulk pack of those velcro wire ties. Blink

Darthesis Tal'Sadaar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-08-21 20:31:44 UTC
Thank you all for the information, it's exactly what I expected from such a great community.

I got great ideas, including good manufacturers, other options for making it work (wires from the celing!), important notes (to make sure the lower monitors are as low as possible), and some great examples to work from.

I also got the other comments I expected... to respond to those for my own amusement

My wife loves the idea, and in fact is pushing me to go straight for 6 now so as not to need to go from 4-6 later and end up not being able to find the same model of monitor. She's good to me like that.

As for why I need them, as I said I work from home doing IT consulting so I often have at least one 'work' monitor where I'm logged into a company's network diagnosing or resolving issues, plus at least one more where I have manuals, research, and 'how to' guides up, another for my various company emails, and then this will leave me a monitor or two to play Eve on.

As for getting outside, although I do work long hours, I absolutely get outside and even play a national competitive sport outdoors (*gasp*) so I not only have practices to make weekly but I have to hit the gym regularly to stay in shape. Yes, I've found a balance.

I do however, still hate the sun *damn Norwegian heritage and our quick to sunburn skin*.

ShadowandLight
Trigger Happy Capsuleers
#18 - 2013-08-21 21:47:28 UTC
one more word of wisdom....

don't try to run each client in full screen. I know its tempting, it looks awesome and you can sit there in awe of how cool it looks.

However when it comes to tactical information gathering, the more real estate your eyes have to cover the more information you will end up missing...

I would work on making your clients as small as you can comfortably handle

or

I would take a hard look at isboxer.com and look at the videofx feature it offers. You can basically stack dozens of clients up on a few screens, pull in "video feeds" of just the important information (health, weapons, overview etc) and leave the rest of that client "hidden" in the background.

It is truly an amazing feature.
Calico Jack Rackam
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-08-22 00:18:32 UTC
I forgot to mention that you might want to look into a utility called Display Fusion once you have things up and running. It does some cool stuff for multi-monitor computing.
Darthesis Tal'Sadaar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-09-07 20:47:58 UTC
I just wanted to post back now that all the parts have been found, all the pieces have been delivered and put together. Everything is working great and I now have enough monitor space to play Eve, have websites up with information, and of course still do my work for my business.

Just for anyone else thinking of doing the same, I went with the following:

3X AtDec VFS-DV (2 monitor vertical stands)
6X Asus VN247F 23" thin bezel monitors

Instead of wall mounting the monitors as that would have put them too far from my eyes and they didn't have good options for hanging six monitors a distance from the wall, I just got desk standing mounts... and then added a large shelf about two inches above the desk. All three stands sit on that and it works perfectly for me.

I DID order the DisplayFusion software recommended (thank you Calico Jack Rackam!) and yes it's a great help in making all six monitors useful with the customizable taskbars on each monitor, as well as giving you nice screensaver and background options.

All in all it works because of all the advice given here, so thank you to all who gave me advice (even those who don't think I get outside!).


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