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Danny John-Peter
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#21 - 2013-08-20 15:07:17 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Danny John-Peter wrote:
... My point was your tripple stacking tank mods in an inefficient way, its not a good use of slots, your MAAR/Buffer mix idea is not a bad one its just inefficiently implemented.

As for the shield fit, 27k optimal allows you to hit well out to HEATED point range, which is pretty handy in itself, I can think of a few fights where not having the extra range would have made life a lot harder (Fighting an armour Harb for one), it also helps damage application against light tackle when engaging gangs.

You also do not in any way need a CPR, I have kited armour harbs for a good 5 minutes in this thing, the slot is better used for other things like speed or damage/application, just cycle your point as needed and pulse your MWD as and when needed, its a good idea to heat the cycles when you pulse your MWD to get maximum Cap/Speed efficiency, but thats not usually necessary.

What you call "inefficiently implemented" has got 73k eHP combined (56k+17k), which is as much as your plated Lolinger has got. At the same time is it faster and more agile than your Lolinger and can repair itself, despite having a smartbomb and a cap booster.

You then sure fit two Heat Sink IIs in the lows, but only to fit Focused Medium Pulse Laser IIs in the highs. And now you want to tell me how nice it is to shoot out to 27km?!? ... Roll You have just run out of arguments.

Know that one cannot overheat a T2 point for long. Not only that, but one also damages everything else in the mids. It is not smart to shorten the life of your MWD or AB, and it is hardly ever worth it. It can be, but then you overheat for just a few cycles and then stop. If you are worried to be hitting a target only within falloff then simply smile and imagine yourself flying Minmatar for a moment. There is nothing wrong with shooting from within falloff range occasionally.

Regarding the CPR can I only repeat myself. Anyone who flies an Amarr ship in a gang and runs out of cap does not make many friends. If you do not care then so be it.


I just remembered your the AB/Beam/AAR Harbinger guy.

Lol, not sure why I bother arguing.

Also, you've clearly never flown in a kiting situation if you can't manage on 3 minutes cap with Point/MWD and Guns all running, I have flown Nano Zealots with 1m 30 of cap and never had issues, anyways, I have said my piece, if you wanna continue to be and idiot using sub optimal fits then have fun with that.
Whitehound
#22 - 2013-08-20 15:10:28 UTC
Danny John-Peter wrote:
I just remembered your the AB/Beam/AAR Harbinger guy.

Lol, not sure why I bother arguing.

Also, you've clearly never flown in a kiting situation if you can't manage on 3 minutes cap with Point/MWD and Guns all running, I have flown Nano Zealots with 1m 30 of cap and never had issues, anyways, I have said my piece, if you wanna continue to be and idiot using sub optimal fits then have fun with that.

It is fine by me, but do not call me an idiot. if you do not care then I do not care.

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