Ships & Modules

I am a relatively new player, so this is my first battle cruiser. I was planning on using the build for primarily level 3 missions, but some small gang activities may also occur. So far, my fit is: 6x Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam 1 with imperial navy multifrequency m, in the high slots,

For mid: 2x cap recharger 2, 1x optical tracking computer 1 with range script, 1x 10mn experimental warp drive

For low: 3x extruded heat sink 1, 1x accommodation armor repair, 1x f85 damage control 1, 1x 800 mm tungsten rolled plate

Rigs: 3x medium trimark armor pump 2

Thoughts, and advice for drones?

1. do not use the same fit for pvp and pve.
2. do not use pulse lasers for pve unless you can fit t2 with scorch
3. do not use plates on a pve fit, do not use armor reps on a pvp fit.

beam lasers are getting a buff in 1.1, so you should maybe wait till then.

I agree on point 1 (somehwat, there are pvp fits good for pve, 100mn tengus for example). On point 2, yes scorch is amazing but you shouldnt wait for t2 lazors to you use the harbi unless you have another skilled out weapon system at hand (i.e if you can fly a t2 drake dont fly the harbi without t2 guns, wait for those) but seeing as its your first bc i doubt it, so go ahead.

Again, dont wait on beams, makes no sense, just fly it as good as you can right now.


(and while plates in pve is dumb, reps in pvp arent).

Tl:DR Dont wait for t2 guns to use it, use it as long as you dont die in your missions.

OP, here is sth that may give you some ideas. Of course, you should work towards T2ing the modules soon. The two hardeners are mission specific.

[Harbinger, Harbinger PvE]

Extruded Heat Sink I
Extruded Heat Sink I
Extruded Heat Sink I
Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I
Prototype Armor Thermic Hardener I
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I

Optical Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script
Eutectic Capacitor Charge Array
Eutectic Capacitor Charge Array
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I

Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I
Heavy Modulated Energy Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator I

[Harbinger, Pulse+MWD PvP]

Damage Control II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Reactive Armor Hardener
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Medium YF-12a Smartbomb

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x5

576 DPS combined, 56k eHP plus 17k eHP from the MAAR. It is not as tanky as a plated Harbinger, but it can fight ECM drones and neuts when it needs to.

Train both. The buff is discussed in Features & Ideas Discussions. It is one of the stickies, but best you read all of them.

Tripple stacking EANMS and ANPs is pretty suboptimal a Heatsink or plate, even an 800, will probably serve you better than a tripple stacked ANP.

I would personally say thats a pretty sub-optimal fit in general though, for PVP I would probably run 1 of two fits;

[Harbinger, Lolbinger]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Internal Force Field Array I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II

Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x5

More standard manmode brawling fit, good projection for a brawler thanks to scorch, try and hold your opponent at range when possible.

[Harbinger, Nano Harb]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Internal Force Field Array I

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x5

My preferred fit, fantastic DPS at range and a great gang ship to boot.

You use your set of Warriors to kill the ECM drones, revolutionary I know.

I would say the TEs are pretty handy as they bump your optimal up to heated point range, admittedly for solo dropping the Locus for another tank mod wouldn't be a bad idea, the Locus is more their for gang work (althout it can be handy for operating outside of point range to weaken a target).

I don't see why you need a CPR, 3 mins of cap with everything running is plenty with good cap management.

(Edit; you realise you only lose 100m/s on your armour fit because you trimarked it anyways?)

Unless you are very unlucky you should time to kill of ECM drones before they jam you.

If you are that concerned fit a Medium EMP smartbomb (Faction are cheap and are better Vs Med ECM because of their higher orbits), I'm fairly sure one fits with some jiggling.

(I would however point out I don't really see a lot of Jam drones on the solo circuit these days, tends to be people prefer the extra DPS than a chance that you may jam them with drones which die really fast anyways due to having really low HP compared to TII damage drones.)

As I said, if you are worried about ECM drones, fit a smartbomb, a neut is more general use but obviously adapt to your needs, if you come across a lot of ECM drones and don't want to micro Warriors to clear them off smarties are a good alternative, you just have to watch your range to gates/stations.

My point was your tripple stacking tank mods in an inefficient way, its not a good use of slots, your MAAR/Buffer mix idea is not a bad one its just inefficiently implemented.

As for the shield fit, 27k optimal allows you to hit well out to HEATED point range, which is pretty handy in itself, I can think of a few fights where not having the extra range would have made life a lot harder (Fighting an armour Harb for one), it also helps damage application against light tackle when engaging gangs.

You also do not in any way need a CPR, I have kited armour harbs for a good 5 minutes in this thing, the slot is better used for other things like speed or damage/application, just cycle your point as needed and pulse your MWD as and when needed, its a good idea to heat the cycles when you pulse your MWD to get maximum Cap/Speed efficiency, but thats not usually necessary.