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Wanna get players re-subbin to this game?

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Flyinghotpocket
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#1 - 2013-08-15 23:41:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Flyinghotpocket
Remove local. simple.

go to second page for actual discussion. got the bad trolls out on the first page

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Rowells
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#2 - 2013-08-15 23:43:05 UTC
And then you'll also have an equivalent if not greater amount of people leaving. There's not ec]xactly a silver bullet for that particular situation
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#3 - 2013-08-15 23:44:56 UTC
i dont know anybody who would say NO to this. except ones that have built their eve career on 100% intel and being a complete panzy

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Rowells
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#4 - 2013-08-15 23:48:12 UTC
i didnt say no. i just said it wasnt that simple
Flyinghotpocket
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#5 - 2013-08-15 23:50:23 UTC
things are and can be that simple, i remember the nano nerf. it was sudden and rage inducing. the game is better for it.

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Cade Windstalker
#6 - 2013-08-15 23:53:20 UTC
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
things are and can be that simple, i remember the nano nerf. it was sudden and rage inducing. the game is better for it.


Yes, this is not that simple.

Intel is an important tool in protecting space out in Null and dealing with wars in high-sec.

The lack of local works in WH space because you can also control your entrances an exits, if you couldn't do that the lack of local would probably be much less popular.
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#7 - 2013-08-15 23:55:52 UTC
you want intel. use your d-scanner

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Rowells
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#8 - 2013-08-16 00:03:12 UTC
sudden and rage inducing, does not mean it was a major gameplay change. It affected a specific module and very specific ship fits. Local is kind of the middle wall between "knowing too much" and "knowing nothing at all". Unlike a specific module change, local affects everyone, everywhere, all the time.

So as i said before, a change like this would make quite a few people happy, and quite a few people upset.
Corun Deluse
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#9 - 2013-08-16 00:42:20 UTC
Bad troll is bad.


In case you're not actually trolling:

Everybody agrees that local is flawed. However it's a compromise and the best (read least horrible) option that anybody including ccp has come up with. Eve is already VERY harsh on new players (google "eve learning curve" for a classic picture) we dont need to make it harder.

There are areas of the game without local. Come visit wormhole space, I'd love to shoot you without local.
Mara Rinn
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#10 - 2013-08-16 01:03:21 UTC
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
Remove local. simple.


What about the players that unsubscribe because they have been wardecced out of the game while trying to establish themselves economically?

What about the players that unsubscribe because the distinction between hisec and lowsec is so drastic, and they feelmtheynhave no chance to "ease in" to PvP?

What about the players who unsubscribe because they got harassed out of the game due to their race or gender?

How does removing local encourage these players to resubscribe?

Do you have any facts to support your implicit assertion that many people quit the game because of local?

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Rowells
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#11 - 2013-08-16 01:08:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Rowells
Mara Rinn wrote:
Do you have any facts to support your implicit assertion that many people quit the game because of local?

Doubtful. I believe this person in question is a little too "simple"-minded to have thought in that much in depth.
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#12 - 2013-08-16 01:53:25 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Gallifreyan
Corun Deluse wrote:
Bad troll is bad.


In case you're not actually trolling:

Everybody agrees that local is flawed. However it's a compromise and the best (read least horrible) option that anybody including ccp has come up with. Eve is already VERY harsh on new players (google "eve learning curve" for a classic picture) we dont need to make it harder.

There are areas of the game without local. Come visit wormhole space, I'd love to shoot you without local.

all i have to say to this is.

bad troll is bad. ********

* Removed by ISD Gallifreyan for bypassing Profanity Filters.

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Flyinghotpocket
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#13 - 2013-08-16 01:54:21 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
Remove local. simple.


What about the players that unsubscribe because they have been wardecced out of the game while trying to establish themselves economically?

What about the players that unsubscribe because the distinction between hisec and lowsec is so drastic, and they feelmtheynhave no chance to "ease in" to PvP?

What about the players who unsubscribe because they got harassed out of the game due to their race or gender?

How does removing local encourage these players to resubscribe?

Do you have any facts to support your implicit assertion that many people quit the game because of local?


what happened when all the ppl unsubed from the nanoholocaust. ? the game moved on. it will recover from local removal

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#14 - 2013-08-16 02:02:30 UTC
Who said people were leaving? CCP seems do be doing it right since the numbers are slowly but steadily on the rise ever since the game came out.

Wanna remove local? Go to a wormhole. Damn nullbears.

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Rowells
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#15 - 2013-08-16 02:05:20 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Gallifreyan
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
what happened when all the ppl unsubed from the nanoholocaust. ? the game moved on. it will recover from local removal

You just did a full 180 there. You went from,"Let's get players back into the game with such-and-such feature" to "Who cares who quits, the game will recover".

seems pretty counter productive to me.

Flyinghotpocket wrote:
all i have to say to this is.

bad troll is bad. ********


Also really doubting you wanted to suggest a feature or idea.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
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#16 - 2013-08-16 02:19:52 UTC
Make cloaks have 1 minute cycle without auto-repeat and after cloak reactivation delay of 10-15 sec and you have a deal.

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Flyinghotpocket
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#17 - 2013-08-16 02:20:37 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Gallifreyan
That Seems Legit wrote:
Who said people were leaving? CCP seems do be doing it right since the numbers are slowly but steadily on the rise ever since the game came out.

Wanna remove local? Go to a wormhole. Damn nullbears.


1 lowsec. ********

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Flyinghotpocket
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#18 - 2013-08-16 02:21:34 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
what happened when all the ppl unsubed from the nanoholocaust. ? the game moved on. it will recover from local removal

You just did a full 180 there. You went from,"Let's get players back into the game with such-and-such feature" to "Who cares who quits, the game will recover".

seems pretty counter productive to me.

Flyinghotpocket wrote:
all i have to say to this is.

bad troll is bad. dumbshit


Also really doubting you wanted to suggest a feature or idea.



yet the ignorance int his thread is astounding. i state players will return with local removal. idiots state people gonna leave.

people are always leaving and resubbin. so whats the big deal?

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Rowells
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#19 - 2013-08-16 02:24:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Rowells
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
yet the ignorance int his thread is astounding. i state players will return with local removal. idiots state people gonna leave.

people are always leaving and resubbin. so whats the big deal?

I have no idea. You're the one with the suggestion, trying to get people to re-subscribe. So i should be asking you what the big deal i if people are always " are always leaving and resubbin".

So what's the big deal?
seth Hendar
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#20 - 2013-08-16 10:39:45 UTC
i would LOVE local to be removed, at least in null and low, but this would probably drive many players off the game, more than it would drive IN
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