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Mycool Jahksn
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-08-15 13:10:44 UTC
Karak Terrel wrote:
There was also this guy


Good old memories!

I remember that guy was a disturbing neut that kept people from ratting/mining in our home system because everyone thought he was stealthed and looking for an easy kill.

After a while I decided to talk to him and thats when I found out what he was doing. After getting to know him he even allowed me to warp to him at about 500 AU from the sun when he was about 50% done with his project. Had a special super deep bookmark stored until CCP nerfed the super deep safespots.

My main character is even mentioned in the Thanks to list at the end :)

My interests include but are not limited to throwing rocks at bee hives.

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Alundil
Rolled Out
#22 - 2013-08-15 13:30:34 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Erufen Rito wrote:
Well, there's also the fact that systems have an actual edge now. For example, the system I live in, the furthest planet from the sun is around 30AU, give or take, and I made a bookmark that placed me 50 AU away from the sun, burned in the opposite direction from it for about 3 hours at 8km/s, and i didn't move a single AU more.


8km/s for three hours is 86,400Km or thereabouts.

an AU is 149,597,871Km. Light needs eight and a half minutes to travel that distance, and it travels thirty-seven million times faster than you were.

You travelled a whole 0.05% of an AU. I'm not surprised you didn't see it tick over from .0 to .1 - that would have taken two and a half days.

The good news is that you were - just about - travelling faster than the ISS which takes 90 minutes to orbit the Earth. So, you could have gone around a temperate planet twice in those three hours. Yaaaay. Alternatively, you would have made it a little less than a quarter of the way to the moon, so you were at least outperforming the Apollo missions, who took a whole day to make it that far.

Math, like Eve, is hard :D

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Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-08-15 13:44:18 UTC
Easy

Play in the alliance tournament

P.S stay the feck out of my home system Big smile

p.p.s Falcon gimmie my Edilon back pretty please

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Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-08-15 14:24:16 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

See you in Polaris in 69,479,239,102 AD.

I'll put the kettle on for a nice cup of tea Big smile



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LittleTerror
Stygian Systems
#25 - 2013-08-15 15:20:33 UTC  |  Edited by: LittleTerror
Ka'Narlist wrote:
That reminds me of another thing I once wondered about.
Can you slowboat from one gate to another inside a system?

I don't think so, but I am not sure...


You could but it would take you a considerably long time, for example if my maths is correct, it would take you 346 days to travel 1 au at a speed of 5km per second.

In some systems there are gates that are 20,000 - 100,000 km's apart and it is possible to travel those distances without the use of warp drive, i was bored one day. People also use to manually locate peoples safe spots before probes and that is still possible today, but most people don't sit in safe spots long enough because of probes.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-08-15 15:26:28 UTC
Yay! Somebody else who knows basic multiplication and division! Bear

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Author of The Deathworlders
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#27 - 2013-08-15 16:36:29 UTC
Karak Terrel wrote:
There was also this guy

That guy is my hero ^ Big smile

Yah you have to go through gates to get the session change.

There used to be a way to set clones in Jove space. Some people also managed to trick GMs into loading them there. People who made it said the systems were empty, as were the markets. There's nothing there. I don't know what happened to those clones. It's been a long time since anyone talked about it. I wonder if anyone still has a pod or clone in Jove space....

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-08-15 17:43:11 UTC
Space in EVE is non-contiguous. Each system in EVE is essentially a "room" with jumpgates and wormholes being the "doors." As far as I know, EVE does not have a hard limit on its co-ordinate space so each system or "room" is effectively infinitely large, but all that there is out there is completely empty space devoid of anything. After you get past the last planet there's nothing interesting or noteworthy. To go to another "room," you have to go through a "door" - a stargate, a wormhole or briefly make your own "door" via jumpdrive. It's actually very like the room-based architecture of text adventures, where "room" didn't neccessarily need to describe an actual indoor room, but rather a distinct space. There could be a theoretically unlimited number of interactive entities within the "room" but you had to leave the room via an approved exit (west, down, up, north, etc.) - there was no concept of just walking somewhere and reaching the boundaries.

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Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

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MEZZA Creire-Geng
Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
Seventh Sanctum.
#29 - 2013-08-15 17:56:01 UTC
kerbals could do it..
Zatar Sharisa
New Eden Heavy Industries Incorporated
#30 - 2013-08-16 07:16:16 UTC
Stitcher wrote:


8km/s for three hours is 86,400Km or thereabouts.

an AU is 149,597,871Km. Light needs eight and a half minutes to travel that distance, and it travels thirty-seven million times faster than you were.

You travelled a whole 0.05% of an AU. I'm not surprised you didn't see it tick over from .0 to .1 - that would have taken two and a half days.

The good news is that you were - just about - travelling faster than the ISS which takes 90 minutes to orbit the Earth. So, you could have gone around a temperate planet twice in those three hours. Yaaaay. Alternatively, you would have made it a little less than a quarter of the way to the moon, so you were at least outperforming the Apollo missions, who took a whole day to make it that far.


You know your stuff, sir. You've hit on why I was somewhat....amused at the speeds of the ships when I started playing. They're pretty much all slower than the satellites we have in orbit of Earth, much less things like the Pioneers, Voyagers, and New Horizon.

I understand about indecision, but I don't care if I get behind.  People livin' in competition.  All I want is to have my peace of mind.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#31 - 2013-08-16 07:51:04 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Zatar Sharisa wrote:
You know your stuff, sir. You've hit on why I was somewhat....amused at the speeds of the ships when I started playing. They're pretty much all slower than the satellites we have in orbit of Earth, much less things like the Pioneers, Voyagers, and New Horizon.


How fast does your Submarine go?



Also, Helios II kicks the pants off any of those silly deep space probes. 70km/s.

The ISS takes an hour and a half to orbit the earth, this would take a minute and a half.

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-08-16 08:43:07 UTC
That Seems Legit wrote:
this thread needs more turkey bacon swiss avocado sammiches. Damnit....


Your face creeps me out everytime I see a post from you... Faces are not supposed to do that to me. Shocked

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Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#33 - 2013-08-16 08:54:26 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Zatar Sharisa wrote:
You know your stuff, sir. You've hit on why I was somewhat....amused at the speeds of the ships when I started playing. They're pretty much all slower than the satellites we have in orbit of Earth, much less things like the Pioneers, Voyagers, and New Horizon.


How fast does your Submarine go?



Also, Helios II kicks the pants off any of those silly deep space probes. 70km/s.

The ISS takes an hour and a half to orbit the earth, this would take a minute and a half.


It would take a minute and a half if it could maintain the same orbital radius as the ISS... which it couldn't. You'd need an incredibly dense planet to have that kind of speed in a similar orbit.

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Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-08-16 09:04:38 UTC
I used to live next door to Jove space, they like to fly around blaring that weird music of theirs from their ships. Glad I moved. Arrow
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-08-16 09:07:43 UTC
Zatar Sharisa wrote:
You know your stuff, sir. You've hit on why I was somewhat....amused at the speeds of the ships when I started playing. They're pretty much all slower than the satellites we have in orbit of Earth, much less things like the Pioneers, Voyagers, and New Horizon.


Well, when it comes to the way EVE simulates spaceflight, verisimilitude just gives up and goes to cry in the shower with a tub of ice cream. The planets don't move, the ships appear to experience drag (which is ostensibly caused by the warp drive, but...) and there's an absolute frame of reference as opposed to a relative one. So, they experience drag and are accelerating and moving relative to.. what exactly?

The only solution is to just shrug and say "eh. videogame".

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Seetesh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-08-16 10:35:08 UTC
Gogela wrote:
Karak Terrel wrote:
There was also this guy

That guy is my hero ^ Big smile

Yah you have to go through gates to get the session change.

There used to be a way to set clones in Jove space. Some people also managed to trick GMs into loading them there. People who made it said the systems were empty, as were the markets. There's nothing there. I don't know what happened to those clones. It's been a long time since anyone talked about it. I wonder if anyone still has a pod or clone in Jove space....


A few of us did the jump clone trick, but they moved our clones and noob ships we had there. Their was literally nothing of interest there.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#37 - 2013-08-16 11:34:36 UTC
Darvaleth Sigma wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Zatar Sharisa wrote:
You know your stuff, sir. You've hit on why I was somewhat....amused at the speeds of the ships when I started playing. They're pretty much all slower than the satellites we have in orbit of Earth, much less things like the Pioneers, Voyagers, and New Horizon.


How fast does your Submarine go?



Also, Helios II kicks the pants off any of those silly deep space probes. 70km/s.

The ISS takes an hour and a half to orbit the earth, this would take a minute and a half.


It would take a minute and a half if it could maintain the same orbital radius as the ISS... which it couldn't. You'd need an incredibly dense planet to have that kind of speed in a similar orbit.


would

I am, in fact, aware that orbital velocities are functions of the orbit*, not the ship, I was just struck by the almost exact 60fold difference in speed.

Alternatively, you could just use an unreasonably large fuel budget to trace an orbital path at a different velocity.


*or, more correctly, orbits are functions of velocities relative to masses, i.e. orbital velocities, but either way.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Xio Zheng
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-08-16 13:04:33 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Erufen Rito wrote:
Well, there's also the fact that systems have an actual edge now. For example, the system I live in, the furthest planet from the sun is around 30AU, give or take, and I made a bookmark that placed me 50 AU away from the sun, burned in the opposite direction from it for about 3 hours at 8km/s, and i didn't move a single AU more.


8km/s for three hours is 86,400Km or thereabouts.

an AU is 149,597,871Km. Light needs eight and a half minutes to travel that distance, and it travels thirty-seven million times faster than you were.

You travelled a whole 0.05% of an AU. I'm not surprised you didn't see it tick over from .0 to .1 - that would have taken two and a half days.

The good news is that you were - just about - travelling faster than the ISS which takes 90 minutes to orbit the Earth. So, you could have gone around a temperate planet twice in those three hours. Yaaaay. Alternatively, you would have made it a little less than a quarter of the way to the moon, so you were at least outperforming the Apollo missions, who took a whole day to make it that far.


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Erufen Rito
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2013-08-16 14:47:23 UTC
Alundil wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
Erufen Rito wrote:
Well, there's also the fact that systems have an actual edge now. For example, the system I live in, the furthest planet from the sun is around 30AU, give or take, and I made a bookmark that placed me 50 AU away from the sun, burned in the opposite direction from it for about 3 hours at 8km/s, and i didn't move a single AU more.


8km/s for three hours is 86,400Km or thereabouts.

an AU is 149,597,871Km. Light needs eight and a half minutes to travel that distance, and it travels thirty-seven million times faster than you were.

You travelled a whole 0.05% of an AU. I'm not surprised you didn't see it tick over from .0 to .1 - that would have taken two and a half days.

The good news is that you were - just about - travelling faster than the ISS which takes 90 minutes to orbit the Earth. So, you could have gone around a temperate planet twice in those three hours. Yaaaay. Alternatively, you would have made it a little less than a quarter of the way to the moon, so you were at least outperforming the Apollo missions, who took a whole day to make it that far.

Math, like Eve, is hard :D

I forgot to mention that I didn't travel further than 12,000km from the bookmark, even though I was moving the whole time.

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Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-08-16 14:55:24 UTC
I'm curious, how did you know you were 12,000Km from a bookmark? I wasn't aware it was possible to select them and see the distance to them.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
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