Missions & Complexes

And no, I NOT am talking about upcoming nerf on the boosters in the command ship and command links.

I am talking about when OBG's are wiped out.

I was going to walk through the mechanics of incursion payouts, but you guys already know them, and why OGB's are so critical for optimal efficiency.

Well, I have been on Sisi trying to fit an EOS and a Claymore, with more than 3 links.
It is impossible. Both lack the CPU to do it by a wide margin, and at the same time fit a tank that will hold up, plus some DPS modules.

So that means 2 Command ships on grid, since the best fleets need minimum of 4 links, more likely 5, to operate.
You all know what that means to income/ site, as you either sacrifice DPS or add pilots.

Oh, and just imagine the fun and games when you try the Assault site that splits the squads down separate paths.

Now, all the moo goo backed players are laughing and saying adapt or die, snicker.
And the guys that are designing these ships likely never flew an incursion in their lives, and don't care one whit about PvE, since in their eyes, the game is pvp only, and income to do anything magically appears from moon goo.

For everyone else who uses incursions as a source to do anything else in this game, get onto Sisi, try to fit a 4 or 5 link CS, with a tank. And think carefully about the repercussions of when OGB's go bye bye.

In a PvP environment, there is no cap on efficiency quantity of ships on grid. For incursions, that is totally not the case.

Best guess, when combining the nerf to command links and the future destruction of OGB's, I am estimating a 30% drop in earning power.

The same people you are complaining about nerfing OGBs, also significantly buffed alchemy to limit goo pricing, and redistributed goo usage so that no longer is there the abilty to run a 400mil/mo tower to run a whole medium sized corps SRP. You have to own 5 towers, and pay the 2 bil in fuel, and service 5 towers now to see the income that 1 tech tower used to produce, and then you'd need to own a 6th to pay for all the extra fuel to get the same net.

That income is diminished so much that even goons are preparing to host pets renters.
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Ongrid boosting only will be a significant improvement to the game, and far more important than whether incursion income goes up or goes down. CCP already has levers they can adjust incursion income with anyway.

Oh, Dinsdale. The sky is falling again.

This time, I've been beaten to the punch. I have nothing substantive to add to the quoted bit.

I was kinda of expecting a topic with some more tear filled content.

"Incursion runners, you will have no safe harbor, we will hunt you down, wherever you hide, stations, planets, astroids, wormholes. Nowhere is safe from the raging inferno that is me and my many alts. Who have all infiltrated your channels and listening to your delicious tears."

Something like that.

You are just going on about the OGB, that is rather dissappointing

usually people say about "100+ millions/hour" when doing Incursion.
I REALLY would love to see purposes that NEED you to have such income...

Unfortunately this change does nothing to fix main problem: risk free isk grinding.

I can tell you a small secret in this department.

Alot of the pilots there does incursion, is flying alts. And using the isk they make doing incursions, to finance their main's pvp ships be those in null/low or high sec.

Doing pvp or being the secret moneybacker for a pvp corp isnt exactly cheap.

Don't tell people that.
Don't you know that all of test's 10,000 chars are going to make their money in 7 systems in Aridia, and not a single one will do Incursions to finance their PvP activities?

If everyone is effected it wont effect the lp sid eof earnings at all, you will earn lp slower but it will be worth more. Isk sure, a small decrease is probable if you were exploiting the OGB to begin with, but then you have benefited form it for years so i wont shed many tears.

oh noes! the massive isk per hour completely safe isk grinding might be in danger. incursions are still out of whack with the rest of pve, way to much isk for no danger. if you are in a group that know what they are doing no one should lose a ship.. ever. I flown enough incursions and most of the time i fell asleep in my scimi as there was so little to do.