EVE General Discussion

Nope. It isn't. And I haven't been.
Ganking someone over and over for no reason. Maybe.
Ganking someone over and over to extort ISK is perfectly legal.

If CCP banned people for doing it, why would anyone pay?

And besides, how ELSE would you propose making Hulk ganking a profitable enterprise? Short of say, corning the market on Oxytopes?

OP is right. If CCP doesn't realize this soon the passionate players will leave and the rest will soon die of boredom.

I don't know if there are any official statistics out there but my impression of EVE players is that many tries it and leave but those who do stay with EVE, does it longer and spend more money than players of other MMOs. These are the players CCP risk to lose.

CCP wants you, i hope, to play the game your way and enjoy it. Also dont forget on a finacial point of view having lots of people playing and catering to ALL of them means more subs.

Anomalies are being buffed for Winter.
IIRC, they'll get extra value, but not spawn more often. More bang for your buck. Or is it buck for your bang?

Maybe you should ditch your noctis and make 50M/h on one account instead of 60-70M/h on two. 40M/h on bounties in belts seems a bit steep to be sustainable with a PvP cane, but maybe you can do it if chaining (but then you don't get the faction loot). And don't forget to factor in a few random hot-drops and ganks on your cane as well as downtime when local is a little too hot for belt ratting.

/facepalm.

CCP need cash fast. Incarna was supposed to bring thousands of new players to Eve but resulted in less people playing. Maybe the same people who put their faith in Incarna think that making Eve less harsh and a tiny bit safer will bring more subs.

I don't disagree with the OP, but I do understand why CCP doesn't want nooblings to ragequit...

CCP is a business. It needs to support it's employees, and it needs to make some $.

It's a fine balance between selling out and catering to the diehard fans.

If CCP makes high sec a harsh and ruthless environment, new players would find it much more difficult to continue playing. This game isn't a one time purchase, it's a monthly subscription. Ragequiting noobs = bad

On the other hand, if CCP makes high sec easier, the veterans complain and think CCP is selling out and making EVE into WoW...


I don't personally mind what CCP's been doing. I resubbed recently after seeing all the attention CCP is paying to the community.

how many aly accounts per person are you thinking?

I have to say herz, you really do have a way with words and to be honest I think the argument is quite well written given that if these numbers are correct.. Mind you I am not in the majority of nooblings, but I did ragequit in 2006 because things were much more difficult and for someone like myself with processing delays its a tad harder to wrap your mind around the many choices and the lack of funds to establish those choices back then. I recently came back about a week ago and now I am seeing through "plexing" what I was missing out sure I skilled in social for awhile and talked with someone about potentially WH exploring with my corp or with others and trying to be the covert op that bumps and gloves but at the same time I want to have that relaxation time. I know I spent the last few days doing a bit of peacemaking and perhaps adding a little fire to the flame which was a bad thing but overall .... I think of myself as a carbear but at the same time if we got players here who are causing this much trouble for CCP and EVE perhaps our focus should shift to how are we going to minimize these numbers so that we can bring a new quality of players perhaps even go as far to say how are we going to as a community help eachother to realize that everyone is different and perhaps needs a helping hand..

Now after some reflection I dont think CCP wants us to live in high sec but then again its our job as a community to teach those who dont know how to survive in low sec to do so, because whether we like it or not, we are spending our lives training the skills and well some of us dont have the money for plex cards to boost our starting capital but mostly how does one start from nothing without resorting to mission running/bounties... I guess I see what you and others are saying but at the same time perhaps we are being doormats to these individuals because we want to deep down trust eachother and so we feed the fire in order to keep the motivation? All i can say is I am not being hypocritical but I did take a new look into the system and I see things now from both perspectives...

My bottom line... A mentor system needs to be put into place for those who want to venture out and have it be deadspace null or low sec to teach what could and will happen and that if you are killed during this tutorial you dont lose your ship or its fittings but rather you fly in a premade system ship in which suits your experience... I think honestly we should have the tutorial interview the players and then base a scenario on that algorithym. I think if the game states we can be what we want to be based on the introduction now... Perhaps all we need are changes to the tutorials and again the implementation of a mentorship program Now this would prepare everyone new or old into the challegenges to face then if someone wants to sit in the station for their existence here in EVE then its their progrative. However as it stands we need tweaks to the foundation so that new players have resources and not just be pointed to websites to fend for themselves. Perhaps if we spend our lives skilling why not have the game reflect this in tutorials and what skills are needed e.t.c and base your decision school and skill books on that profession.. if you want to proceed down a secondary path you must obtain and visit the tutorial agent who will not provide you the same books as if it was your primary and well I think personally this could offset alot of the problems with ragequit. Now this sounds like a suggestion more than answering the question but in fact... the ideal here answers the question and gives a possible solution i think.