Player Features and Ideas Discussion

.....and that is where your argument falls completely apart. There is not tactics with all gank no tank, like I said they already drastically increased the buffer tanks ACROSS THE BOARD.

This is a **** poor engine for space couterstrike like really terrible.



Completely unrealated.

False.

Are you saying untank Attack Battlecruisers are bad, not used, underpowered etc?

Of course they aren't, those perfectly support my comment: all gank, little to no tank and as everyone already knows they're rather good and very used, therefore a valid point to think about cruisers balances.

Instead of oversize tank or weapon modules cruisers need tools to achieve their job, and specially HACs need more dmg and projection abilities, smaller signature. Not fit double large extenders or 1600 plates because of "alpha fleets" excuse.



It is. You don't agree I am ok with that but I insist and see no point on racing for EHP on small ships, at least not at the cost of proper balances like we can see now the EHP jump from frigates to above classes being utterly stupid and to compensate players have to fit battleship size modules.

We will not agree in the end, doesn't really matter or will not change the ships we'll fly in fleets in one moth two or next year.
Nor whatever point we'll make here will change or have whatever weight in current/future balances.

No.

I wish people would stop spewing this garbage. Cost is certainly not the main balancing factor, but it is A balancing factor. No one would fly a zealot if an omen did the same job as well or better in every way.

Personally, I think T3's should keep the SP loss, but lets not pretend that cost isn't a balancing factor.

But cost means nothing to balance.

No matter the price we can afford it. Thats why CCP are not balancing them based on cost, they are balancing them against other ships of their own class.

But it cant. The zealot is slightly better.

But it is still balanced because it doesnt render the oem useless. CCP know you cannot balance on cost, they tried and it failed utterly. Ships will be balanced against the other ships of their class and those in the classes around it.

It gets three times the tank, the same firepower, slightly better speed and sig, fitting room for takle and other E-War and its cap stable. Now compare it to the omen.

Thats not slightly better.




But it does.



No it plays zero part in balancing. CCP have more or less said balancing on cost will not be happening at all. They are balancing on hulls and hulls alone.

If it plays zero part in balancing why is the zealot better than the omen at all? They fill the same role. As you say, the zealot does it slightly better.

The zealot also costs more.

Seems to me that cost is indeed a factor.

They dont fill the same role.

The fact that the zealot costs more has not had any impact on the balance pass. They are being balanced against the t1 class ships so that they are only a bit better not not to the point where they dominate.

No.