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Change to SP loss in regards to T3's

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2013-08-11 12:18:42 UTC
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
No.
I hope Chribba checks in and tells us what he thinks.


Now why some spam is allowed and some other isn't? reported,
Do rules in GD apply only when someone wish/need?

Hypocrit.
YOU consider my post spam,
but YOUR post is just as much !
Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#22 - 2013-08-11 12:21:39 UTC
CHRIBBA! CHRIBBA! CHRIBBA!

that's how you do it..

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2013-08-11 12:41:55 UTC
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
No.
I hope Chribba checks in and tells us what he thinks.


Now why some spam is allowed and some other isn't? reported,
Do rules in GD apply only when someone wish/need?


Aaahahaha...hello future war target of so many people

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Mercas Alderau
Wholesale Merchants
#24 - 2013-08-11 12:48:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Mercas Alderau
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Mercas Alderau wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

He has also been without Internet for almost a week, per his Tweets.


Er... shouldn't tweeting require internet access?



Herp derp derpy derp. He has phone. Physical line to home computer is cut.


edit: what's scary is you couldn't figure this out.


This wasn't about playing eve, but about posting on the forum. I can still post here from my phone...

If you can tweet, you can post in eve-GD.
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#25 - 2013-08-11 12:54:45 UTC
Iskander Phoenix wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
As the title says, with the up and coming re-balance of T3's should CCP consider removing the SP loss associated with T3's

Discuss :)


You lose sp when you get killed in a tech 3??

Sorry I'm a noob...


Quoted because I am also curious?

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-08-11 12:57:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Been blown up twice this month in Proteus, lost 800k SP + about 2 billion in isk. They are awesome ships, this loss is to be expected and makes losing them funner.

Having said that, they don't need a nerf either, 800k is a lot of SP. They should be good.

Edit: Makes using them funner, not losing them.. losing them is pretty not fun :)

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Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-08-11 13:00:45 UTC
really depends how hard they nerf them.
if they just balance them, then penalty should stay.
if they nerf the hell out of them to below T2 levels (ie: junk) then the penalty should go.

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bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#28 - 2013-08-11 13:05:47 UTC
Stop dying or use another ship. T3 are OP and that's why you lose SP.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#29 - 2013-08-11 13:09:21 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Jack Miton wrote:
really depends how hard they nerf them.
if they just balance them, then penalty should stay.
if they nerf the hell out of them to below T2 levels (ie: junk) then the penalty should go.


They will land between t1 and t2. They will not be junk just balanced correctly for their class.
Reckless Ourtomineng
#30 - 2013-08-11 13:10:38 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
No.
I hope Chribba checks in and tells us what he thinks.


Now why some spam is allowed and some other isn't? reported,
Do rules in GD apply only when someone wish/need?


Aaahahaha...hello future war target of so many people


Like I feel scared by "such" so many people? lol.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2013-08-11 13:26:33 UTC
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
No.
I hope Chribba checks in and tells us what he thinks.


Now why some spam is allowed and some other isn't? reported,
Do rules in GD apply only when someone wish/need?


Aaahahaha...hello future war target of so many people


Like I feel scared by "such" so many people? lol.
Of course not.
You're a hypocrit and a coward hiding behind an npc alt.
Reckless Ourtomineng
#32 - 2013-08-11 13:32:09 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
No.
I hope Chribba checks in and tells us what he thinks.


Now why some spam is allowed and some other isn't? reported,
Do rules in GD apply only when someone wish/need?


Aaahahaha...hello future war target of so many people


Like I feel scared by "such" so many people? lol.
Of course not.
You're a hypocrit and a coward hiding behind an npc alt.


U mad bro? Keep it civil.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#33 - 2013-08-11 14:02:07 UTC
No.

Also, they're supposed to be below T2, so if that doesn't happen, maybe they should consider increasing the SP loss to compensate.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-08-11 14:09:15 UTC
Tippia wrote:
No.

Also, they're supposed to be below T2, so if that doesn't happen, maybe they should consider increasing the SP loss to compensate.

They are not supposed to be below T2. They are supposed to be not as specialized in one field as T2 such that they make T2 pointless to use Which they are not apart from boosting. Before you point out some areas where they make T2 obselete remember you don't lose a billion isk plus 400k SP when your T2 blows up.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#35 - 2013-08-11 14:13:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Infinity Ziona wrote:
They are not supposed to be below T2. They are supposed to be not as specialized in one field as T2 such that they make T2 pointless to use
In other words:

Not as good as HACing as a HAC. Not as good at logistics as a Logi. Not as good at gangboosting as a CS. Not as good at sneaking around and ewaring as a Recon. Not as good for a bubble environment as a HIC.

…i.e. below T2.

Quote:
Before you point out some areas where they make T2 obselete remember you don't lose a billion isk plus 400k SP when your T2 blows up.
Then again, the cost is irrelevant and you don't lose 400k SP when your T3 blows up either.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2013-08-11 14:43:56 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
They are not supposed to be below T2. They are supposed to be not as specialized in one field as T2 such that they make T2 pointless to use
In other words:

Not as good as HACing as a HAC. Not as good at logistics as a Logi. Not as good at gangboosting as a CS. Not as good at sneaking around and ewaring as a Recon. Not as good for a bubble environment as a HIC.

…i.e. below T2.

Quote:
Before you point out some areas where they make T2 obselete remember you don't lose a billion isk plus 400k SP when your T2 blows up.
Then again, the cost is irrelevant and you don't lose 400k SP when your T3 blows up either.

Cost is very relevant unless you want to see T3's everywhere. My bad I got blown up twice for 400k, you lose a little over 200k with sub systems at 5.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#37 - 2013-08-11 14:46:58 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Cost is very relevant unless you want to see T3's everywhere.
It's not relevant for balancing, no.
BearUkraine
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-08-11 14:49:32 UTC  |  Edited by: BearUkraine
Yes.
I agree that SP loss should be removed.
Obunagawe
#39 - 2013-08-11 14:50:07 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Cost is very relevant unless you want to see T3's everywhere.
It's not relevant for balancing, no.

If cost isn't relevant then neither is SP loss. You can buy SP in the form of characters on the Bazaar. Even at ridiculous isk/SP, like 1000 isk/SP, at the current time the ISK loss of the hull and subsystems dwarfs the value of the skills lost.
Soporo
#40 - 2013-08-11 14:51:38 UTC
bloodknight2 wrote:
Stop dying or use another ship. T3 are OP and that's why you lose SP.


This. Used to be Tengu, now it's omfg Loki.

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H.L. Mencken