Ships & Modules

legion if rats you're shooting eat lasers well. Loki and proteus are very bad at missions, If you train gallente cruiser at 5, then ishtar, but you need sentries or heavys at 5 too and that's another month or so of training.

You say that like:
- Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization doesn't exist
- Blaster brick Proteus doesn't exist

Since you are going to most likely use t1 frigs in PVP at first you overshoot the skills with t3 hulls. (frigs uses small stuff)

However your use t3 missionrunner can open up a nice space to start training our passive skills in order. t2 armor/shield tank, gunnery, navigation, cap skills, fitting etc. Those skills helps you out what ever ship you eventually choose to fly and those skills can be trained no mather what t3 ship you are using.

My two cents goes for picking the t3 hull what you are currently closest to and use that. (no Proteus please) Train dirrect suport skills for that t3 counter part in the level of "deasent" and start slamming the SP´s into passive skill.

Pick the one you have best skillset for. The upcoming medium turret changes make all of them more interesting for PVE (though nothing extraordinary). Each have their uses in PVP.

Kinda ironic how true that is...

oh well in that case i'll hold off getting a t3 cruiser or maybe ill just get a tengu for mission running

There's actually 4 T3 cruisers, one is meant for PVE, the other three for PVP.

hth

I only know of the tengu that's good for pve. which other one is good for pve as well?

Dont learn in t1 frigs, bad choice, imo. Learn in t1 cruisers (or in dessies). Frig fights usually end to quickly to figure out what you did wrong as a noob.

(this advice only pretty much works for lowsec)

If you have a high sec status and have very very few kills or are very new to this game (char age wise) do the following, buy yourself a vexor, can be t1 fit if you are poor (bar the drones and dcu), plate it up, fit dual webs and light guns, use at least 2 flights of light drones.

For example


[Vexor, Blaster vexor tech2]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier I

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

For skilled users.

[Vexor, cheap]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Drone Damage Amplifier I

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

For low skill users, if you are very poor drop the rigs for 2 hybrid damage rigs.

So if you are really poor, have terrible skills and no experience even that works:

[Vexor, super cheap]
Emergency Damage Control I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I
Drone Damage Amplifier I

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Anode Light Electron Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Electron Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Electron Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Anode Light Electron Particle Cannon I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Hobgoblin I x5
Warrior I x5
Hammerhead I x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

The mods or mostly dirst cheap, the insurance covers the ship and in total you end up with the price of a t1 frig + fit but with way better stats.




Now that you have the ship, DONT RENAME IT, it needs to be called yourname's vexor (unnamed ship=noob ship for most people). even the cheapest version puts out over 250dps, which hit a frig perfectly. And trust me a (assault) frigate seeing a unamed vexor of a noob in space will engage it. And a af is worth 30mil+ and you are dirt cheap. If you kill one you won the fight even if his friends kill you afterwards.

What you do now is to look stupid, you sit in a belt or at a poco or in a fw plex and you try to look dumb. People will assume you to be pve fit and to be a easy prey.

You can easily kill 1-3 frigs going for you and you have a decent chance going up against another cruiser (43k ehp + 450dps isnt bad).


Now you need to make sure not to engage stuff you dont want to fight, dscan at all the time, if a target or stuff comes on scan, shorten the scan to about 1 au (take away the 2 at the beginning), you now spamm dscan again, be prealigned the whole time, if anything you dont want to fight comes on scan warp out immediatly, otherwise preceed.

You will quickly find out what you can beat and what you cant, loses arent expensive and if you get blobed your buffer usually lasts you long enough to kill a frig or 2.


Imo the best way to get into solo pvp, there are a couple of ships that can do the same thing, a light neutron plated thorax or a rlml caracal (caracals usually dont get fought by frigs so beware).

screw it. im just getting a RNI and a rfiter