Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yes, and there are plenty of legitimate reasons to lock another person in your "team" even if you're not in a logistics ship: fleeting up somebody you're ~honourably~ 1v1ing to ensure no off-grid booster shenanigans, webbing a freighter to assist it into warp, warp disrupting a friendly if they get disconnected to prevent them from being killed in their e-warp spot, capacitor chains, remote sensor boosters, tracking links, remote ECCM, and so on. I'm sorry that none of these things are part of your "playstyle". Again, this game is not about "playstyles" because it's a sandbox.

Also, your idea is entirely defeated if the aggressor simply leaves the fleet and starts shooting you. So it's useless to begin with.



1) Being unable to use a mining laser against a ship isn't a restriction in the same way that being unable to water your lawn with a hammer isn't a restriction

2) No, there shouldn't be arbitrary restrictions on how you use a tool.

3) Lore-based arguments in discussions about mechanics are utterly invalid

It was probably this.

Guys, he's trolling you so hard you lost any sense.

10 pages.

If one has an idea people don't like, but that gets 10 pages of response, the accusation of "trolling' may fly, but at this point nobody is coming out smelling like a rose.


See what democracy has wrought? When somebody has an idea they don't agree with, they feel like they have to attack. Why? Because everybody around you with an idea you don't like might vote to impose is on you.


Once, when a dev started a thread about feature changes (I forget the actual topic), I got a post in on the first page, and someone sent me a message offering to pay me ISK to edit my post to something they wanted to put in.


This is a kind of lobbying. Paying money, even in game money, for influence, as they thought they could influence the development of some game features by paying people to put in what they wanted on page 1 of the thread. Look at your google results when you search about the internet and note there are paid-for results on the first page.

So, someone posts and idea you don't like, and.... what happens? 10 pages.


This thread changes NOTHING. I could imagine it would matter if there was a developer or two in here asking for opinions, like that other thread. But were I tasked by CCP to look at threads from here to F&I, even I would have to admit that the tools for most of what gets asked for are already in place.


What we are forgetting is that this MMO is not a democracy. Thank God. We vote with our turrets here, most of the time, and in RL, the worst laws don't pass when they know people will turn to the ammo box having been violated by the ballot box and the ignorance of their countrymen.

But once more, because most of us live in the RL in countries where someone else's ideas can be imposed on you if you are not screaming against them every day, where silence is taken for complicity, the pattern repeats itself in these forums.

While the development of the game is not a democracy the developers look at the threads as much as they can to gauge what people want from the game. The reason threads like this get to 10 pages though is because it's so far detached from the principles of EVE that it borders on the ridiculous. EVE is one of the few MMOs that is more created by the in game actions of the people than the mechanics that the developers put into it. That's what makes EVE special. Changes like this would detract from that and would only help people that are too lazy to play with the meta the way that the majority do.

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the goverment scams you? :'D oh god please, 1 ISK for his corpse! he sure is worth it!

if your goverment sucks then because of people like you, because you can not bring up anotherone

They probably have. He dies so much that bounties don't last long.