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Cyclone time!

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Eli Kzanti
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-08-07 23:59:44 UTC
I've been looking around and doing some experimenting and I've decided it isn't enough... so I am here looking for more PVP Cyclone fits to goof around with.

Show me what you got :) I hope to be amazed!
Annunaki soldier
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-08-08 01:49:11 UTC
hmm if it had 1 more launcher it would be great. Now as a kiting ship something like than maybe ?

[Cyclone, New Setup 1]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Warp Disruptor II
10MN Microwarpdrive II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I


Hammerhead II x5

Ride hard, live with passionย 

DR BiCarbonate
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-08-08 06:08:14 UTC
haha

cyclone blows since the 'rebalance'

only thing going for it is the tank with the op asb

the only semi decent way to fit it is with HAMs and dual xlasb which needs like 4 ******* fitting mods.
no web means HAMs aint gonna do you much anyways

that lol fit above would not recommend, even with 3 bcu you'll be lucky for 300 dps

stick with the hurricane even though they nerfed the **** out of it too.

-carb
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#4 - 2013-08-08 08:52:17 UTC
[Cyclone, 2 xl-asb]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Assault Missile
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


Hammerhead II x5

500dps, more with rage. Needs Genolution implants unless you go with an AB instead.
Whitehound
#5 - 2013-08-08 11:23:45 UTC
468 DPS combined, with 35k eHP plus 41k eHP from the XLASB. A smartbomb against drones, a sensor strength of 30 against ECM and all for 50m ISKs.

[Cyclone, PvP MWD + HAM]

Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Warded Ladar Backup Cluster I

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Faint Warp Disruptor I

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium YF-12a Smartbomb

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

Warrior II x1
Warrior II x4
Berserker II x1

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#6 - 2013-08-09 21:08:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Cyclone is one of my favorites and since the changes, as Gallente that cross trained to Minmatar, the 5 missile slots and drone bay make this a great ship for me.
There's so much drone potential I'm afraid it's going to get nerfed.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Skurja Volpar
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#7 - 2013-08-09 23:46:35 UTC
Always loved the look of the Cyclone hull.

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II
Ballistic Control System II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
To mare
Advanced Technology
#8 - 2013-08-09 23:50:43 UTC
cyclone is crap since the rebalancing, the ship have at least 1-2 slot (or rig) less than the other BCs because you always need some fitting mods just to fit something on the thing, or you just end up fitting overdrive or nanofiber on a freaking BC wich is kind of silly
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#9 - 2013-08-10 02:18:56 UTC
I don't get these "The cyclone is crap" things

Its fastish, it has a pretty decent tank, alright dps and it can fit two neuts.

Thats pretty good.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

To mare
Advanced Technology
#10 - 2013-08-10 04:16:57 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
I don't get these "The cyclone is crap" things

Its fastish, it has a pretty decent tank, alright dps and it can fit two neuts.

Thats pretty good.

cyclone would be allright if it didnt have to waste slots just to fit what its supposed to fit.
and if someone say its supposed to fit large shield boosters, no its just not
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#11 - 2013-08-10 08:24:10 UTC
To mare wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
I don't get these "The cyclone is crap" things

Its fastish, it has a pretty decent tank, alright dps and it can fit two neuts.

Thats pretty good.

cyclone would be allright if it didnt have to waste slots just to fit what its supposed to fit.
and if someone say its supposed to fit large shield boosters, no its just not


I really miss when using an XL on a BC meant you were sacrificing all your cap =<

Are you suggesting it should be able to fit two xl's without fitting mods? I thought it fitted fine with one.. could have sworn i had a fit like that although i might be wrong.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

To mare
Advanced Technology
#12 - 2013-08-10 11:16:54 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
To mare wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
I don't get these "The cyclone is crap" things

Its fastish, it has a pretty decent tank, alright dps and it can fit two neuts.

Thats pretty good.

cyclone would be allright if it didnt have to waste slots just to fit what its supposed to fit.
and if someone say its supposed to fit large shield boosters, no its just not


I really miss when using an XL on a BC meant you were sacrificing all your cap =<

Are you suggesting it should be able to fit two xl's without fitting mods? I thought it fitted fine with one.. could have sworn i had a fit like that although i might be wrong.

no im not saying it should be able to fit 2 (im a strong believer that ASB should be limited to 1 per ship like AAR) but at least 1 XL w/o fitting mods sound reasonable to me.
the fitting Skurja Volpar posted above its one of the best you can come up with for the ship and its already with alot of named stuff and a co-proc.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#13 - 2013-08-10 12:28:44 UTC
To mare wrote:

no im not saying it should be able to fit 2 (im a strong believer that ASB should be limited to 1 per ship like AAR) but at least 1 XL w/o fitting mods sound reasonable to me.
the fitting Skurja Volpar posted above its one of the best you can come up with for the ship and its already with alot of named stuff and a co-proc.


So you want to be able to fit an oversized tank mod, a full rack of damage amps and two neuts without a cpu mod? really?

Quote:
[Cyclone, New Setup 1]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Hammerhead II x5


There

510 dps with faction, 571 with rage,
70675 Ehp after you unload your booster (Double LSE drake gets what.. 58k?)
77,8k with blue pill and that number goes to around 100k if you have lg/hg crystals

Add to that the fact that you go as fast as a attack BC... Yea this ship really isn't bad..


And if you're willing to spend 8 mill for some more dps you can do this

Quote:
[Cyclone, New Setup 1]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Hammerhead II x5



And if you have genolutions you can even do this

Quote:
[Cyclone, New Setup 1]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Reactor Control Unit II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Hammerhead II x5



Nothing wrong with this ship, its pretty great.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

To mare
Advanced Technology
#14 - 2013-08-10 13:36:48 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:



Nothing wrong with this ship, its pretty great.

nanofibers on a ship with scram and web make no sense, the other 2 still waste a rig


Whitehound
#15 - 2013-08-10 14:16:31 UTC
To mare wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:



Nothing wrong with this ship, its pretty great.

nanofibers on a ship with scram and web make no sense, the other 2 still waste a rig



Nanos help in making a tackle and holding it and when using double neuts. In so far does it make sense. It is also a fast BC and nanos capitalize on it.

I find web&scram combos less attractive the bigger a ship gets, because more ships (the smaller ones) are faster than your own and one is not really in control of tackling, but becomes more often the one who gets tackled. Web&scram is also not very attractive when using missiles and when one does not need to be very close to apply damage, but can keep a little distance to possibly reduce incoming damage from turrets. It is then a question of how important it is to stay at close range and how many med-slots one is willing to use for a tackle.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#16 - 2013-08-10 14:30:02 UTC
To mare wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:



Nothing wrong with this ship, its pretty great.

nanofibers on a ship with scram and web make no sense, the other 2 still waste a rig




So speed doesn't matter then? Lets nerf the speed of gallente ships. Noone will notice.

There are plenty of ships in this game that need a fitting module or rig to work, so the cyclone isn't a special case.

There seem to be a few people here who seem to like the new cyclone. So if you can't make the ship work it might be you and not the ship that is the problem.

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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#17 - 2013-08-10 15:05:40 UTC
To mare wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:



Nothing wrong with this ship, its pretty great.

nanofibers on a ship with scram and web make no sense, the other 2 still waste a rig





Ohh sorry, i didn't realize i was talking to someone who's awful.

Carry on.

And white you need the web to apply HAM damage, just look at some DPS charts.. The web is essential.

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Whitehound
#18 - 2013-08-10 18:03:08 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
And white you need the web to apply HAM damage, just look at some DPS charts.. The web is essential.

No, I do not. The Cyclone is hardly a brawler. It can tank, but it is too weak on DPS compared to other BCs and a web will not make its DPS competitive. You want to avoid sitting in a Brutix's or Ferox's optimal range and not get webbed by a Drake for example, but kite and make use if its speed and tank to stretch a fight over time.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#19 - 2013-08-10 18:43:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
I must confess that I am biased towards liking the Cyclone because my real world battle cruiser is also a Cyclone. Lol


I used them mainly for exploration back when rats could be encountered in exploration sites. An exploration fit cyclone, now an obsolete concept with the changes to exploration, MUST kite, and I had to put 100MN ABs on it. Yes, you can put the next size up AB on a cyclone, still fill up the high slot rack, and run cap stable. Probably not a good idea in PVP if yo can absorb the penalty of extra sig using an MWD. Also once you pick up speed in a straight line, you are doomed if you have to turn or align to warp off. It was good for kiting wide orbits in a site and dumping HMs on the rats.

Keep these fits coming - this ship with it's slot layout and drone bay is like a Mister Potatohead of battle cruisers. I wonder if they intended to make the Cyclone like this in the same manner that the Typhoon is in the Battle Ship class.
(Hence there will be just as much debate over fittings?)

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Eli Kzanti
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-08-11 07:47:05 UTC
Thanks for the responses so far, guys!

Anyone got a non-ancillary PvP setup? Just so we can have a gander ;)
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