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What was this Tengu fit...?
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Anti-social Tendencies
Society for Miner Education
#1 - 2013-07-23 17:07:11 UTC
The other day I was hauling stuff out of our WH through a hisec exit when I saw a Tengu sitting by the exit as I was warping to the POS. Being a lone Tengu, I went back and engaged it with a PvE Tengu and a PvP Ham Drake. These don't do great dps, between 1000 and 1100 combined.

The target Tengu simply shrugged off the dps with his shield simply never going down. Meanwhile, he steadily ate through my Tengu's shield. Again, my Tengu is fit for running C2 and C3 anoms, with a bit of a speed tank and it isn't designed to sit and slug it out, but even so the target Tengu had to be doing some decent dps.

I was thinking maybe he had an ASB fit so was trying to wear him down but when my Tengu's shield was about gone, a Vindi showed up so my Tengu and Drake made an ignominious exit out the HS.

So my question, any guesses as to how this Tengu was fit? I want to duplicate it!

"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#2 - 2013-07-23 17:19:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
Even a moderately pimp active (non-ASB) tank Tengu can rep against way over 1k kinetic dps with ease.

Combine with maybe ganglinks and crystals 3-4+k dps tanks are possible even on PVP fits.
Anti-social Tendencies
Society for Miner Education
#3 - 2013-07-23 17:52:53 UTC
Rroff wrote:
Even a moderately pimp active (non-ASB) tank Tengu can rep against way over 1k kinetic dps with ease.

Combine with maybe ganglinks and crystals 3-4+k dps tanks are possible even on PVP fits.


If you have any examples, I'd love to see them. I'm a T3 noob I'm afraid.

"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
#4 - 2013-07-25 13:48:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Evangelina Nolen
deadspace booster. damn things are op on t3
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#5 - 2013-07-25 14:48:32 UTC
Anti-social Tendencies wrote:
The other day I was hauling stuff out of our WH through a hisec exit when I saw a Tengu sitting by the exit as I was warping to the POS.


I'm not sure if I can link killmails, but most likely it was a officer fit tengu.

You want to replicate it, pay a few billion, + implants.

Now that wasn't the ship, that was the mods. Yea hard to kill, but if you did kill it, you would bring tears of joy to the community as a whole.

cause remember, purple officer and faction stuff is the EPIC loot and makes you invincible.....

Yaay!!!!
Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#6 - 2013-07-25 16:19:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Rall Mekin
Anti-social Tendencies wrote:
The other day I was hauling stuff out of our WH through a hisec exit when I saw a Tengu sitting by the exit as I was warping to the POS. Being a lone Tengu, I went back and engaged it with a PvE Tengu and a PvP Ham Drake. These don't do great dps, between 1000 and 1100 combined.

The target Tengu simply shrugged off the dps with his shield simply never going down. Meanwhile, he steadily ate through my Tengu's shield. Again, my Tengu is fit for running C2 and C3 anoms, with a bit of a speed tank and it isn't designed to sit and slug it out, but even so the target Tengu had to be doing some decent dps.

I was thinking maybe he had an ASB fit so was trying to wear him down but when my Tengu's shield was about gone, a Vindi showed up so my Tengu and Drake made an ignominious exit out the HS.

So my question, any guesses as to how this Tengu was fit? I want to duplicate it!


Do you mean, his shields never budged at all? With kinetic, it could have been a very, very high resist/high buffer tengu, but they should have dropped some even if it was just a little red. Was he moving (I assume so)? If so, what was his average speed?

Now, if his shields fell and then immediately went back up, then probably active. However, if you just weren't applying damage because he was throwing off damage through high resists/excellent buffer/speed, it could have been a dead-space fit 100mn AB tengu IMO.

Basically, deadspace 100mn AB, shield buffer, high resists (kinetic, which I assume you were shooting, is naturally crazy high on tengu anyway).

You wouldn't perchance have a fraps of the event or at least a combat log would you?
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-07-25 22:01:18 UTC
PVP tengu vs PVE tengu...
gee oh golly! I wonder which will win in a fight?!?!?!

please continue bringing PVE ships to PVP with, it's always highly amusing.

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Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-07-25 22:04:06 UTC
With a Gist X-type X-large shield booster and the high natural kinetic resistance of the Tengu, that guy was probably tanking somewhere in the range of 3-4k vs. 100% kinetic. He probably didn't even need a shield boost amplifier.

Svo.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Vassal Zeren
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-08-10 02:28:29 UTC
This is why you pack some em missiles: to shoot all your Tengu buddy bros.

A bad analogy is like a leaky screwdriver.
Elemental Order
Cycle of Decay
#10 - 2013-08-10 02:59:38 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
PVP tengu vs PVE tengu...
gee oh golly! I wonder which will win in a fight?!?!?!

please continue bringing PVE ships to PVP with, it's always highly amusing.


To be fair he probably brought a bad PVE ship to fight a better fit PVE ship.
Rich Uncle PennyBags
EVE Online Monopoly
#11 - 2013-08-11 04:52:13 UTC
I have a tengu that can tank 3K + DPS while running cap stable.

Still puts out around 700 DPS.
Zoltan Lazar
#12 - 2013-08-11 17:53:09 UTC
Never ever shoot therm or kin at a T2 caldari ship.

GOB III
Adversity.
Psychotic Tendencies.
#13 - 2013-08-12 16:24:27 UTC
Anti-social Tendencies wrote:
The target Tengu simply shrugged off the dps with his shield simply never going down.

Based on your description, the tengu was probably buffer fit with AB, maybe with skirmish/siege links. If both of you had ammo loaded for max tooltip dps (ie kinetic rage HAMs, fury HMLs), you would have been hitting for only a fraction of your potential damage on a fast, small sig target like a tengu. Seeing him boost from low shield to full in one rep cycle would be better evidence for large booster with crystals.

As others have said, shooting faction EM missiles is a good idea. Also, multiple webs would greatly improve your applied dps and give you a chance to hold him down.

Damage types and optimal tengu fits are kind of made irrelevant by fighting on a hisec however.