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A Frustrating Experience

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Zi-Mer Sunforge
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-08-09 17:50:30 UTC
I'd like to describe what transpired on my first day playing this game and ask if this game's mechanics are "Working As Intended"; because to me, they certainly do not seem to be. I started off in Gallente Federation space and decided to start off by exploring the galaxy. I made my way south on the map and noticed I was entering lower and lower security status systems; bad elements surrounded me in increasing number. Most worrying was 1 particular pilot who had appeared in Local Spacechat for several systems on my trip.

Eventually I ended up at a Stargate that led to a "Low Security System", and I was hesitant to jump through it with this shifty-looking guy in local. I decided to turn the tables on him and see what he was up to, so I jumped to one of the other gates in system and did in fact see him slowly moving in his Space Capsule towards the gate. He jumped through, and I followed shortly after. It was another Low Security System but I owed it to all law-abiding pilots to tail this guy and see what the hell was going on. Once we got into system I maintained by post-jump Spacecloak by not moving my ship, and waited for him to make his move. He jumped off in a direction that only could have led to Planet IX of the system we were in, so I jumped in after him. I jumped at a distance of "100km off" the planet so that if he had 'homies' waiting there, I would have time to make my escape and go get help.

What I discovered upon warping in was that HE had jumped in at a distance of 100km as well; this guy was clever. He immediately started moving towards me, and I had no choice but to open fire while yelling "He's coming right for us!" in ingame voicechat to make it clear to the others in local that this was an act of self defense. I managed to destroy his pod and save my own life, but suffered several injuries in the firefight that I may or may not recover from. If you look at my portrait, you will see my broken swollen nose and a gash across it. I also banged my head on the back of my Captain's Chair, but you can't see that in my portrait (OOC: I performed a "Space Resculpt" after the battle for roleplay purposes).

I was frightened, but alive. I decided it was time to get out of that system and back to the safety of High Security Space; I jumped back through the stargate I had come through, but while regaining my composure my ship was destroyed by "CONCORD"!

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19128004

Do EVE players have a right to defend themselves when they genuinely fear for their life? Or are they condemned to being persecuted by the government should they have the nerve to stand their ground(space) and fight back?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2013-08-09 17:57:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Unsuccessful At Everything
So you pulled a Greedo and shot first, then shot the pod, then got CONCORDOKKENED because of flags when you jumped back to highsec.




Working as intended.

Also, shooting first is not self defense.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Tyrendian Biohazard
The Bastards
Sedition.
#3 - 2013-08-09 17:58:46 UTC
Destroy 'em all. Let the Amarr Gods sort 'em out.

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Laurianne Leone
Blue Canary
Watch This
#4 - 2013-08-09 17:59:14 UTC
Zi-Mer Sunforge wrote:
I'd like to describe what transpired on my first day playing this game and ask if this game's mechanics are "Working As Intended"; because to me, they certainly do not seem to be. I started off in Gallente Federation space and decided to start off by exploring the galaxy. I made my way south on the map and noticed I was entering lower and lower security status systems; bad elements surrounded me in increasing number. Most worrying was 1 particular pilot who had appeared in Local Spacechat for several systems on my trip. ....

I was frightened, but alive. I decided it was time to get out of that system and back to the safety of High Security Space; I jumped back through the stargate I had come through, but while regaining my composure my ship was destroyed by "CONCORD"!

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19128004

Do EVE players have a right to defend themselves when they genuinely fear for their life? Or are they condemned to being persecuted by the government should they have the nerve to stand their ground(space) and fight back?


If you have a GCC flag, then you will be seen by Concord as a valid target, best to go chill in a safe spot in low sec until the timer runs out (15 minutes). And yes you do have a right to do that, as in there is nothing stopping you from doing so, and more people should terminate suspicious looking pods they find at 100 from planets, Eve would be a safer place by far.

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Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#5 - 2013-08-09 17:59:17 UTC
In lowsec you do. In hisec not so much.

You obtained a criminal flag for aggressing the pod, in lowsec this means anyone can shoot you. In hisec it means concord shoot you.

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not-it
#6 - 2013-08-09 18:01:57 UTC
Good job defending yourself against a pod. You ******* pirate.
Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
#7 - 2013-08-09 18:02:15 UTC
Zi-Mer Sunforge wrote:
Do EVE players have a right to defend themselves when they genuinely fear for their life? Or are they condemned to being persecuted by the government should they have the nerve to stand their ground(space) and fight back?


That depends... was he wearing a hoodie?

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Vatos Amigo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-08-09 18:05:15 UTC
Hahaha is this a joke?

Dude you shot at a pod thinking he was a threat?
Then got killed by the POLICEMEN hahaha.
This is by far the funniest noob story I've read.

Damn I love this game...
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#9 - 2013-08-09 18:05:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Ricard Chastot wrote:
Zi-Mer Sunforge wrote:
Do EVE players have a right to defend themselves when they genuinely fear for their life? Or are they condemned to being persecuted by the government should they have the nerve to stand their ground(space) and fight back?


That depends... was he wearing a hoodie?


Lets not be racist regarding our Amarrian brothers and sisters.


Now if the guy had skittles, shoot that punk, those things are nasty.

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Vipre Morte
Team JK
#10 - 2013-08-09 18:06:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Vipre Morte
Laurianne Leone wrote:

If you have a GCC flag, then ...


All I can think about are compilation flags for the GNU C Compiler.

Also: Posting in a stealth nerf afk cloakers thread. Probably.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#11 - 2013-08-09 18:09:18 UTC
Zi-Mer Sunforge wrote:
I'd like to describe what transpired on my first day playing this game and ask if this game's mechanics are "Working As Intended"; because to me, they certainly do not seem to be. I started off in Gallente Federation space and decided to start off by exploring the galaxy. I made my way south on the map and noticed I was entering lower and lower security status systems; bad elements surrounded me in increasing number. Most worrying was 1 particular pilot who had appeared in Local Spacechat for several systems on my trip.

Eventually I ended up at a Stargate that led to a "Low Security System", and I was hesitant to jump through it with this shifty-looking guy in local. I decided to turn the tables on him and see what he was up to, so I jumped to one of the other gates in system and did in fact see him slowly moving in his Space Capsule towards the gate. He jumped through, and I followed shortly after. It was another Low Security System but I owed it to all law-abiding pilots to tail this guy and see what the hell was going on. Once we got into system I maintained by post-jump Spacecloak by not moving my ship, and waited for him to make his move. He jumped off in a direction that only could have led to Planet IX of the system we were in, so I jumped in after him. I jumped at a distance of "100km off" the planet so that if he had 'homies' waiting there, I would have time to make my escape and go get help.

What I discovered upon warping in was that HE had jumped in at a distance of 100km as well; this guy was clever. He immediately started moving towards me, and I had no choice but to open fire while yelling "He's coming right for us!" in ingame voicechat to make it clear to the others in local that this was an act of self defense. I managed to destroy his pod and save my own life, but suffered several injuries in the firefight that I may or may not recover from. If you look at my portrait, you will see my broken swollen nose and a gash across it. I also banged my head on the back of my Captain's Chair, but you can't see that in my portrait (OOC: I performed a "Space Resculpt" after the battle for roleplay purposes).

I was frightened, but alive. I decided it was time to get out of that system and back to the safety of High Security Space; I jumped back through the stargate I had come through, but while regaining my composure my ship was destroyed by "CONCORD"!

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19128004

Do EVE players have a right to defend themselves when they genuinely fear for their life? Or are they condemned to being persecuted by the government should they have the nerve to stand their ground(space) and fight back?


I luled at that, especially when you yelled "he's coming right for us"! lol. And omg it would be so cool for our avatarts to get injured in combat and look like it till you paid to get it fixed lol.

+1 for creative writting.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#12 - 2013-08-09 18:10:15 UTC
Laurianne Leone wrote:

If you have a GCC flag, then you will be seen by Concord as a valid target, best to go chill in a safe spot in low sec until the timer runs out (15 minutes). And yes you do have a right to do that, as in there is nothing stopping you from doing so, and more people should terminate suspicious looking pods they find at 100 from planets, Eve would be a safer place by far.

GCC no longer exist. If you die to concord in highsec you die because of a criminal action you did in highsec not because of a timer you received somewhere else.

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Lin Hsun Feng
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-08-09 18:10:19 UTC
Spergie Scrublord
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-08-09 18:11:10 UTC
OOC: LMAO


Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#15 - 2013-08-09 18:20:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Bienator II wrote:

GCC no longer exist. If you die to concord in highsec you die because of a criminal action you did in highsec not because of a timer you received somewhere else.
Nope, he incurred the flag for podding someone in Empire space, lowsec is still Empire with or without Concord. Criminal flags are not applied in nullsec and WH space.

@ the OP, you podded someone in Empire space, you got a criminal flag for doing so and Concord acted upon it when you entered highsec. Working as intended.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#16 - 2013-08-09 18:22:39 UTC
lol

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#17 - 2013-08-09 18:24:04 UTC
Thank goodness you have such quick reflexes. If he had been able to launch his warp scrambling drones to pin you in place he could have easily destroyed your expensive ship with a well placed ram.

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embrel
BamBam Inc.
#18 - 2013-08-09 18:24:19 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
So you pulled a Greedo and shot first, then shot the pod, then got CONCORDOKKENED because of flags when you jumped back to highsec.




Working as intended.

Also, shooting first is not self defense.


Depends on where.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#19 - 2013-08-09 19:24:23 UTC
Concord's laws are a little less lenient than Florida's.

Well done OP :)

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Sabin Infernorum
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-08-09 20:43:10 UTC
Lin Hsun Feng wrote:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19128003 is this the kill?


Involved parties: 1

Zi-Mer Sunforge

Victim:

Tray-von Stargazer

Thanks for the chuckles, OP.
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