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Custom paint jobs/symbols on ships

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Daniel archmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-08-07 11:34:30 UTC
I put forth the idea that we allow people to use preaproved corp symbols and paint onto their ship. This would add a bit of visual variety and would place a identity on the ship other then a name tag. Ie goonswarm would have the Giant bee on there titan and have the colour of the bee as its war paint , black and yellow. Please note this idea is not mine and that it was posted in a different area before.
Jureth22
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-08-07 11:52:09 UTC
would probably pay a certain ammount of aur for a permanent paint job on a certain type of ship,and even if i loose it the next one i buy would have the same paint,or we could buy the paint for forever and just use on any ship we please.
TehCloud
Guardians of the Dodixie
#3 - 2013-08-07 11:56:31 UTC
Jureth22 wrote:
would probably pay a certain ammount of aur for a permanent paint job on a certain type of ship,and even if i loose it the next one i buy would have the same paint,or we could buy the paint for forever and just use on any ship we please.

If they make it for Aur, it should still be gone if exploded. You want fancy stuff? Pay for it!

My Condor costs less than that module!

Daniel archmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-08-07 11:57:27 UTC
Jureth22 wrote:
would probably pay a certain ammount of aur for a permanent paint job on a certain type of ship,and even if i loose it the next one i buy would have the same paint,or we could buy the paint for forever and just use on any ship we please.
I would say the alliance would be able to pay for it with them plexes rather then just a ship at a time.
Sunai Karvinoinas
#5 - 2013-08-08 18:03:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Sunai Karvinoinas
Well. I've seen threads like this several times. But I'd like to make some differences.

If a player likes to have a repaint of an own ship, he can by a new skin with Aurum. These are "special clothes" for an individualized ship.

The player buys it once for the ship model. Each ship he buys from the same type could be repainted for ISK, if the "colorizing certificate" is located in the local hangar.
i.e. Aurum for a "Heron" repainting. If it was destroyed it costs a new Heron and 75.000 ISK for repainting with blueprint like colorizing certificate.
A Heron repainting can't be used with an Imicus or Kestrel.
But maybe it will be a "racial ship class repainting certificate". So you can buy a new skin for all frigates of the same race. This would only be a question of the initial Aurum price.
"Clothes" for bigger ship models might be more expensive. Repainting a new bought one too.

Corps can buy (500 mil ISK or 1 Plex) a blueprint like right to paint/skin ships they produce theirselves. They can use corp color combinations, what are predefined by CCP yet. If the ship was sold outside of the corp, it will keep the skin.
This is NO repainting right.
Corps can buy the right for initial colorizing while producing of all items they do. So it could be possible to get i.e. turrets and launchers in corp colors.
The right might be combined with a BPO as a hardcoded image. Using another BPO won't result in recolored items/ships. Copying the "tuned" BPO will result in BPC with new colored items/ships.

Corps and alliances can buy a blueprint like right to place corp/alliance icons on the ship. This will cost Aurum. Logos are made of predefined modules provided by CCP. So this might be possible quite easily. If a ship is sold outside of the corp/alliance the logo will be replaced with the default one.

Effect (golden, 3D, private, ...) logos are available for Aurum only.

Individual captains quarter stuff and colors would be only available for Aurum.

Optical tuning (spoilers :D) stuff could be available for Aurum.
Daniel archmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-08-08 19:27:50 UTC
Sunai Karvinoinas wrote:
Well. I've seen threads like this several times. But I'd like to make some differences.

If a player likes to have a repaint of an own ship, he can by a new skin with Aurum. These are "special clothes" for an individualized ship.

The player buys it once for the ship model. Each ship he buys from the same type could be repainted for ISK, if the "colorizing certificate" is located in the local hangar.
i.e. Aurum for a "Heron" repainting. If it was destroyed it costs a new Heron and 75.000 ISK for repainting with blueprint like colorizing certificate.
A Heron repainting can't be used with an Imicus or Kestrel.
But maybe it will be a "racial ship class repainting certificate". So you can buy a new skin for all frigates of the same race. This would only be a question of the initial Aurum price.
"Clothes" for bigger ship models might be more expensive. Repainting a new bought one too.

Corps can buy (500 mil ISK or 1 Plex) a blueprint like right to paint/skin ships they produce theirselves. They can use corp color combinations, what are predefined by CCP yet. If the ship was sold outside of the corp, it will keep the skin.
This is NO repainting right.
Corps can buy the right for initial colorizing while producing of all items they do. So it could be possible to get i.e. turrets and launchers in corp colors.
The right might be combined with a BPO as a hardcoded image. Using another BPO won't result in recolored items/ships. Copying the "tuned" BPO will result in BPC with new colored items/ships.

Corps and alliances can buy a blueprint like right to place corp/alliance icons on the ship. This will cost Aurum. Logos are made of predefined modules provided by CCP. So this might be possible quite easily. If a ship is sold outside of the corp/alliance the logo will be replaced with the default one.

Effect (golden, 3D, private, ...) logos are available for Aurum only.

Individual captains quarter stuff and colors would be only available for Aurum.

Optical tuning (spoilers :D) stuff could be available for Aurum.


I agree with this
Sunai Karvinoinas
#7 - 2013-08-12 14:30:47 UTC
I think it's an interesting thing, what could be worth some more discussion here.

Call it: "graphical cosmetics" or "fun stuff"...
Nobody needs it but it could be nice to have, I suppose.

*bump*
Engineer Squiffy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-08-12 21:33:24 UTC
Sunai Karvinoinas wrote:
Well. I've seen threads like this several times. But I'd like to make some differences.

If a player likes to have a repaint of an own ship, he can by a new skin with Aurum. These are "special clothes" for an individualized ship.

The player buys it once for the ship model. Each ship he buys from the same type could be repainted for ISK, if the "colorizing certificate" is located in the local hangar.
i.e. Aurum for a "Heron" repainting. If it was destroyed it costs a new Heron and 75.000 ISK for repainting with blueprint like colorizing certificate.
A Heron repainting can't be used with an Imicus or Kestrel.
But maybe it will be a "racial ship class repainting certificate". So you can buy a new skin for all frigates of the same race. This would only be a question of the initial Aurum price.
"Clothes" for bigger ship models might be more expensive. Repainting a new bought one too.

Corps can buy (500 mil ISK or 1 Plex) a blueprint like right to paint/skin ships they produce theirselves. They can use corp color combinations, what are predefined by CCP yet. If the ship was sold outside of the corp, it will keep the skin.
This is NO repainting right.
Corps can buy the right for initial colorizing while producing of all items they do. So it could be possible to get i.e. turrets and launchers in corp colors.
The right might be combined with a BPO as a hardcoded image. Using another BPO won't result in recolored items/ships. Copying the "tuned" BPO will result in BPC with new colored items/ships.

Corps and alliances can buy a blueprint like right to place corp/alliance icons on the ship. This will cost Aurum. Logos are made of predefined modules provided by CCP. So this might be possible quite easily. If a ship is sold outside of the corp/alliance the logo will be replaced with the default one.

Effect (golden, 3D, private, ...) logos are available for Aurum only.

Individual captains quarter stuff and colors would be only available for Aurum.

Optical tuning (spoilers :D) stuff could be available for Aurum.



if you mean to change color/colors (eg. shaded colors), I agree.

Unfrortunately, if you mean to send/upload your images, for any kind of isk/aur, you are most probably going to create server/bandwith problems on first fleet with 200+ ships in same grid, all wanting to download you image/model just because you're zooming in too much. This is amplified if like you other 100's have their own custom images.

That's also why alliance logos are NOT automagically created/set.


Sunai Karvinoinas
#9 - 2013-08-31 15:02:10 UTC
Engineer Squiffy wrote:
if you mean to change color/colors (eg. shaded colors), I agree.

Unfrortunately, if you mean to send/upload your images, for any kind of isk/aur, you are most probably going to create server/bandwith problems on first fleet with 200+ ships in same grid, all wanting to download you image/model just because you're zooming in too much. This is amplified if like you other 100's have their own custom images.

That's also why alliance logos are NOT automagically created/set.
No. In Eve you have provided colors and symbols to sample own logos from.

These colors and some of their most used combinations should be available to shade ships.

In a first step CCP could provide special colorizing for free at special events like x-mas or for player individual redesign per Aurum.

I don't talk about custom uploadable player skins.
But CCP should be able to predefine skins for player usage comparable to the clothes, they provided in past.

In a near future, a corporation could decide to produce ships with an own (CCP predefined) design basing on the corp color combination. Maybe the founder can chose these colors once from a CCP predefined spectrum. As more colors as more expensive is the founding and as more expensive an own color combination for produced ships would be. This is like real life... :)
The corp who produces the cars, will provide a predefined spectrum of colors you can chose from. Some cars allow combinations and optical tuning...

If anybody redesign the ship for Aurum, it will be replaced by a (CCP predefined) redesigned model for use in space. So I don't expect any overload on the central systems.
If a corp produces a individual colored ship, the model will be static too. You may compare some common ships with their factional counterparts instead.

So this will be a lot of colorizing and shading work for CCP but will create much more coporate idendity and individualism without really generating a complete free choice or uploadable skins (what won't work really).
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#10 - 2013-08-31 15:04:14 UTC
Let them pay AUR for it and i am fine with that.
Ravasta Helugo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-08-31 15:43:21 UTC
I'm fine with a certain amount of customization, but there would need to be some other changes to keep the distinction of faction/pirate ships:

Either change some of the trim pieces on the ships (read: shape), and allow full color customization. Ships will be identified by form rather than camo or;

Keep broad color scheme/camo consistent, but allow changing of certain secondary colors.

All for AUR, of course.