Ships & Modules

Hello all, I first played Eve on a trial account in 2006, and I just got back into it a week or two ago. So in other words this toon is a 7-year-old noob.

Anyways, on to my question...
A day or two ago I came across my first NPC's that used some attack that made my targeting sensors screw up and drop all targets. That sucked, and came as a complete shock to me. Then they webbed me and my normally speedy ship was very slow. I've come to realize that being slowed and having target locks screw up is a real pain in the a$$.

So for kicks, I started thinking about what would be the best ship/ load-out (for PvP mind you), that would be incredibly hard to catch, and once caught, could easily get away or not be disrupted. Or maybe even be so stealthy that nobody knew you were there in the first place. No restrictions as to ship size or cost, from the cheapest frigate to the most expensive battle command fleet master behemoth. I don't even necessarily care if it does a lot of damage.

If you wanted to pick a ship and outfit it so that if push came to shove you could run from, or hide from any PvP battle that came your way, what would it be? Ideally, it would be big enough to do some sort of fun mining/ surveying/ exploring/ mission running in, but that's not a deal-breaker. I just think it would be cool to have a set-up that would completely frustrate any enemy you came across because they simply wouldn't have a snowballs chance in he!! of catching you.

Maybe it's a stupid idea, but I'd love to hear some input and suggestions. Please mention anything from ships, to equipment, and most importantly, even skills that would make this build possible.

This idea can best be summed up in the immortal words of Sgt. Oddball in the movie "Kelly's Heroes"...
-"These engines are the fastest in any tanks in the European Theater of Operations, forwards or backwards. You see, man, we like to feel we can get out of trouble, quicker than we got into it".

Thanks for the Manticore vote. I'll check it out. Can you stealth a ship even after you've already been targeted or entered combat?

No. No cloaking if you've been targeted and/or you're within 2000m of anything at all. Once you cloak you lose all locks.

You have two ways to evade capture:

-Cloaking
-Speed

Only a few ships can cloak well, and only a few ships can run well, but bear in mind that no matter what your fit is or how you fly there are people who will try to catch you (and be successful at it as well).

There are some rules to remember when using a cloaked ship:

1. Any ship, wreck, drone, or can within 2KM of your ship WILL decloak you and/or prevent you from using your cloak.
2. Once you uncloak there is a timer placed on you until you can turn your cloak back on.
3. While the cloak is a wonderful tool, it does not shield you from the prying eyes of local
4. Only T3's with the interdiction nullifier subsystem can evade bubble traps and pull bubbles from gates, which means that even with a cloak on certain ships you can still be caught in traps.
5. Only covert ops cloaks can warp cloaked
6. Cloaking allows you to pick your targets, once the fight is initiated you cannot recloak as long as someone or something is targeting you, even drones abandoned by someone in a fight that are still targeting you will not allow you to cloak back up, the same thing goes for friendlies logistics or fleet members who target you.

Rules for Speed:

1. Be fast
2. Be fast
3. Be fast
4. Don't get within 15KM of most ships, anything 10K and below is a kill zone for speedy things since a warp scrambler will stop your MWD.
5. Don't get within 25KM (sometimes more) of notorious neuting battleships, if an armageddon is on the field you better hope you can run 40KM+ before he can target you.
6. A surprisingly large amount of ships have bonuses to web range or scram range, research them and don't get close to them.



If you want some solo boats which have escape mechanisms I suggest you try:
-T1 Frigates
-Interceptors
-Stabber/vagabond
-Pilgrim
-Stealth Bombers
-Some of the T3's (proteus/loki)
-Some of the AF's

Try joining Caldari FW and asking there. They are pro at the cloaky stabbed stuff.

I'll check out the T3 stuff Fronkfurter. So gate camps still happen? How about huge fleet on fleet battles in PvP? I know this game has a loyal following, but I didn't know if the fanbase was enough that large scale PvP still happened. Fleet PvP would be a blast, but I imagine you'd have to be in a corp that focused on that correct?

Both the stabber and vagabond are made for skirmish warfare. They both have fall-off bonuses on their ship, which means that with T2 guns and barrage they easily hit 30-40KM, granted their damage projections at such a range is utter crap. The vagabond/stabber also can easily hit 3K m/s, and overheat to 4.3-4.5K m/s which is where they really shine. The guns on both the stabber and vagabond require no capacitor to fire either. This, coupled with the 25m/b dronebay/bandwidth makes it able to engage smaller targets and kite with ease. While the majority of fits are not cap stable running a MWD (don't worry good piloting will overcome this). The upcoming odyssey 1.1 patch is going to make the vagabond a beast with increased cap recharge, sensor strength, shield boost bonus, and a speed bonus rolled into the hull of the ship.

The thorax on the other hand is usually meant to be used with a blaster fitting. Blasters are the highest DPS guns in the game. HOWEVER, their range is relatively short. If you were to use Null with a blaster boat you could get to a decent range but no where like the vagabond or stabber may get. That doesn't mean that the thorax is a bad ship, but in my mind it is more of a brawl ship.

The rapier may be another ship to look into (especially the nano versions), while it wont go as fast as a vagabond/stabber, it does have a LONG webbing range to keep ships away from it. I believe with nano's it goes 2.2K m/s (correct me if I am wrong). Although it cloaks, it suffers from the same problem a lot of cloaking ships do; it does abysmal damage.

The curse/pilgrim are also good ships. The curse can be nano-d for speed but lacks the cloak of the pilgrim. It does however have a VERY long neuting range and a relatively large drone bay which can be stocked with both damage drones and jamming drones if the situation goes **** up. Although the pilgrim usually is slower due to the armor fits, and it's nature to be within 12KM of a target, it also has the large drone bay which enables it to have the drone escape mechanism. However, as stated before it trades the speed and longer range for cloaking (and possible tracking disruptors).

Gate camps are definitely still a thing, and large scale pvp is bigger than ever! As mentioned above, just a couple of weeks ago we had the biggest fight in eve's history, over 4000 people in one system. :D