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Holy Christballs! SKYRIM

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Graelyn
Tzedakah
Aegis Militia
#1 - 2011-11-11 13:29:55 UTC
I've been geeking out for hours.

It's gorgeous, the mechanics are solid and easy to use, the story is (so far) immersive and engaging, and the WORLD.....

Did you like Fallout? They borrowed every good thing about it and tossed it in here.

How am I supposed to take care of my EVE stuff now? Sad

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113

Grimpak
Manufactorum.
#2 - 2011-11-11 14:00:38 UTC
I heard the thing was huge.


but I must ask, "huge" as in huge or "huge" as in "HOLY MOLLY DID YOU JUST PUT AN ENTIRE COUNTRY IN THERE??"

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Something Random
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#3 - 2011-11-11 14:02:21 UTC
Ive had no end of trouble with it. Sadly.

First i couldnt get past the initial splash screens - had to lower my sound card default output to DVD quality.
Then kept crashing when i got to the first Dragon appearance on the 'walkthrough' - made my client run as Admin

Which has all lead to me being able to play for about 10 minutes before being dumped out quickly, unceremoniously and (in terms of logs) silently.

Given up, ill come back to it in a week - hopefully Patch/Proper Workarounds will be in place. Right now the PC forums are going ape and very little sense is coming out of them.

What ive seen... nice. As you can imagine i havnt exactly had the time or urge to go setting up a great load of options that improve it all immmensly yet.

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

I love Science, it gives me a Hadron.

stoicfaux
#4 - 2011-11-11 14:38:03 UTC
Odd. The game is working perfectly for me on Ultra settings. Big smile Win7 64bit, EVGA GTX 470, 4 gig o' ram, Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality sound card.[1] Have you updated your sound drivers? (plus graphics, etc., drivers?) You can also try disabling sound in the game as a quick check.

Also, the game is gorgeous. I haven't gotten very far (a couple of hours,) but Skyrm makes Fallout 3/Oblivion look really drab, stupid, and clumsy in comparison. The first quest dungeon was really well done.

I was worried the game would just be an upgraded Fallout 3/Oblivion, but it's shaping up to be a lot more than that.


[1] I wonder what their next "gaming" sound card will be called. Sound Blaster Triple-X-Fi: The Culling of the First Born?

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Grimpak
Manufactorum.
#5 - 2011-11-11 15:08:38 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:


[1] I wonder what their next "gaming" sound card will be called. Sound Blaster Triple-X-Fi: The Culling of the First Born?




atm the "next" soundcard is called X-fi Titanium HD or smth.


they had to rework their X-fi soundchip from ground up to make it pci-e 1x capable.

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Tear Miner
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-11-11 15:25:59 UTC
tbh, Oblivion grabbed me more in the opening of the game.

Skyrim was kinda meh, but it's starting to pick up a bit that I've been dumped into the world on my own.
Something Random
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#7 - 2011-11-11 15:47:54 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Odd. The game is working perfectly for me on Ultra settings. Big smile Win7 64bit, EVGA GTX 470, 4 gig o' ram, Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality sound card.[1] Have you updated your sound drivers? (plus graphics, etc., drivers?) You can also try disabling sound in the game as a quick check.

Also, the game is gorgeous. I haven't gotten very far (a couple of hours,) but Skyrm makes Fallout 3/Oblivion look really drab, stupid, and clumsy in comparison. The first quest dungeon was really well done.

I was worried the game would just be an upgraded Fallout 3/Oblivion, but it's shaping up to be a lot more than that.


[1] I wonder what their next "gaming" sound card will be called. Sound Blaster Triple-X-Fi: The Culling of the First Born?



Loads of people are saying the same, fine for me..... etc.
Loads of people are not :-)

Trick now is to find the similarities for each i guess.

Yes, mucked about with sound - but really ???? NO SOUND - Personally id return it for refund in Bethesdas office, and your right that wouldnt happen.

Im a bit fussy about being up to date with drivers. However i refuse to install Beta and Alpha code anymore.

Machines plenty up for it too.

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

I love Science, it gives me a Hadron.

stoicfaux
#8 - 2011-11-11 16:06:06 UTC
Something Random wrote:

Loads of people are saying the same, fine for me..... etc.
Loads of people are not :-)

Trick now is to find the similarities for each i guess.

Yes, mucked about with sound - but really ???? NO SOUND - Personally id return it for refund in Bethesdas office, and your right that wouldnt happen.



Sorry, I wasn't clear. Just disable the sound to determine if it's a sound related problem. IME, sound cards can cause a lot of incompatibility issues.

It's also why I buckle down and only buy proven name brand hardware (i.e. buy an EVGA nvidia card instead of a generic brand nvidia card) and even then I try to buy the specific components used by a hardware review site that tests gaming rigs (such as www.tomshardware.com) I haven't had a game not work for me in years.

Worst case problem I've seen was where a motherboard's RAID driver was somehow interfering with the sound card. Second worst case is malware or spyware that interferes with the OS's normal operations (such as interfering with the TCP/IP stack.) So backup your data/create a check point and upgrade your motherboard drivers and run some anti-spyware apps.

Good luck on getting the game running.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Something Random
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#9 - 2011-11-11 19:46:32 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:

Good luck on getting the game running.



OK - gonna negate this with the following sentence it will appear, but im in with the computermebobs and knows what they needs.

However this time around (and no real fault of my own, its so well behaved normally) but i neglected to turn off MSE. THAT solved all the woes of the random quick crashes.

Spent the rest of the intro slashing away at the dudes head with my double wielded maces, until it released me into the world then had to go up the nearest mountain and go 'ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo' and 'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah' then went shopping Bear

I awoke the bear........ was fun Twisted

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

I love Science, it gives me a Hadron.

Shivus Tao
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-11-11 20:11:36 UTC
The best part is that the weapons feel like they have actual weight. Combat is so much more tactical than Oblivion where it was just hack slash and pray. Shield bashing is fun as well.

I feel bad for that guy at the beginning. Had he stalled for 30 seconds or so he wouldn't have lost his head.


KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#11 - 2011-11-11 21:44:43 UTC
Quote:
Fix common crash to desktop problem
Access the Sound menu from the Control panel. In the playback tab, right click on speakers and select properties. Select the advanced tab on the new screen and select 24 bit, 44100Hz (Studio Quality) from the drop down menu.


That's one of a few tweaks and fixes out already. Full list here.

Dum Spiro Spero

Something Random
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#12 - 2011-11-12 00:02:30 UTC
Still getting a crash between some loads of Dungeon to World - but very sporadic. Ill put that down to needing a new NVidia build for now.

Played good and long time this time, got the claw quest out the way and went on a rampage with my staff of sparks and new destruction gear - all went well till the game sprung a mage bandit on me, biatch toasted me in about 2 seconds. 1 second of 'oh, thats not my sparks.... DODGERAMA' and 1 second of realising she must have cast defense spells and was more than a match for my twig o sparks.....

Oh well, good time for a break.

The world is BIG and it is (as advertised) way more dense than Oblivion, theres stuff everywhere and i can only assume crafting is a massive part of the game the amount of ingredients lying around. Makes a change from calipers anyway.

Nice touch with the tanning hides too - i guess it means you can truly make everything, from armour sets to spells, poisons and then enchant your own gear.

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

I love Science, it gives me a Hadron.

Logan LaMort
Screaming Hayabusa
#13 - 2011-11-12 02:47:34 UTC
Shivus Tao wrote:
I feel bad for that guy at the beginning. Had he stalled for 30 seconds or so he wouldn't have lost his head.




I think I'd prefer losing my head to being incinerated by a dragon Lol

haven't played much so far but I'm liking it a lot over the Oblivion. I rarely play magic types but the magic in this game feels really awesome to use, might have to be a... BATTLE MAGE

I wonder how necromancy plays too... Twisted
VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2011-11-12 06:20:25 UTC  |  Edited by: VKhaun Vex
Very impressed. Engine is optimized like a BOSS. Ran it 100% full settings with no issues as did several people I know on STEAM/Forums that have weaker machines. NO bugs so far *knock on wood*. Going down hills/mountains is much better then other games. You don't insta die from fall damage unless it's really far. You don't skip off of rocks and slide down, you almost always 'stick' when you land somewhere. Generous 0damage distance.

My only complaints so far are that there is no quick switching weapons. Instead they use a favorite items/spells menu which pauses the game and that it uses the same stupid numbered save system that's not unique to character.




Logan LaMort wrote:
I rarely play magic types but the magic in this game feels really awesome to use, might have to be a... BATTLE MAGE

I wonder how necromancy plays too... Twisted


Necromancy is odd. You have to kill an enemy with something else and actually raise them. They come up as a pet (which you can only have on of, two with a perk.) and fight as they were when they fell but pale and glowing blue. Same weapons and style. Only last 60seconds. Kind of hard to use on the fly.

I'm a bit disappointed in the magic. The one hand magic feels weak to the point you have to dual wield it. If you went PURE destruction I'm sure it would be very nasty to cast one handed pure damage spells through the early/mid levels but that only works until you hit max destruction skill and continued to level up without getting proportionally stronger. Though if you ONLY played by destroying things, I guess you'd mostly stop leveling and always be nasty.

Charges Twilight fans with Ka-bar -Surfin's PlunderBunny LIIIIIIIIIIINNEEEEE PIIIEEEECCCCEEE!!!!!!! -Taedrin Using relativity to irrational numbers is smart -rodyas I no longer believe we landed on the moon. -Atticus Fynch

Graelyn
Tzedakah
Aegis Militia
#15 - 2011-11-12 08:45:43 UTC
Actually, you can quick-switch weapons, although the game does a terrible job of informing you of this.

Simply open favorites menu (q), hover your mouse over a spell/weapon/etc, then push the number you want to bind to that item. Of course, you need to have the items in question added as favorites first....

You can use the numpad too.

Also for the folks who are baffled like I was, holding E (use) will allow you to pick up / manipulate objects.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113

MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-11-12 08:51:40 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
I heard the thing was huge.


but I must ask, "huge" as in huge or "huge" as in "HOLY MOLLY DID YOU JUST PUT AN ENTIRE COUNTRY IN THERE??"



honestly I don't think any gamer has a real idea of how big a country is.

even all of world of war craft is apparently if in real life the size of rhode island.

which is a 2 day walk across. which is pretty big for an mmo. So we'll see if a game can someday really get that big of a world into it.




well other than with cheap gimmicks, like arcanium.

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Khors
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-11-12 09:00:17 UTC
I always had stability issues with bethesda games, and they have always cleared out 99% by sorting sound codecs. I have no idea how that works, just throwing it out there if you are having troubble. I use K-Lite sound codecs and it helps. If someone have more know-how they can fill in on this.


Some other thoughts:
They did the key mapping on PC pretty well.
EXCEPT FOR ENTER, SRSLY, WHO MAKES ENTER THE "ACCEPT" KEY WHEN ALL OTHER KEYS ARE AT THE OPPOSITE END OF THE KEYBOARD. Good game though, bethesda have really learned from the games since oblivion. I've played 11 hours without really doing more than three quests, just running around the world causing murder and mayhem.
VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2011-11-12 09:51:29 UTC  |  Edited by: VKhaun Vex
Graelyn wrote:
Simply open favorites menu (q), hover your mouse over a spell/weapon/etc, then push the number you want to bind to that item.


You sir, are the man.


Khors wrote:

They did the key mapping on PC pretty well.
EXCEPT FOR ENTER, SRSLY, WHO MAKES ENTER THE "ACCEPT" KEY WHEN ALL OTHER KEYS ARE AT THE OPPOSITE END OF THE KEYBOARD.


And 'tab' being close a container. I spent the whole intro thinking I had to loot all or I was stuck in the container forever. It was only once some tooltip or something said tab brought up another menu that I thought to try the key in a container. Sure enough, somehow someone thought it would make sense that the menu key brought you out of containers instead of ESC or the usual interface 'back' key from the rest of the game.





Grimpak wrote:
but I must ask, "huge" as in huge or "huge" as in "HOLY MOLLY DID YOU JUST PUT AN ENTIRE COUNTRY IN THERE??"


It's actually smaller than Oblivion. I don't have the link handy but it was a direct answer from a dev, stating it's much smaller than Oblivion, but it's more divided and it's hand crafted. You won't find a giant field with nothing in it or an area that's just procedurally generated flora and random harvest nodes and wildlife spawns. The entire world is almost all hand placed and has more points of interest dotted over it.

I play an MMO called DAoC with an absolutely massive frontier area, but that area is almost entirely empty. It's just hilly ground with basic terrain. I get a friend with the best speed buff and run over it without a second thought. I tried to go just from one town to another in Skyrim before work, and didn't make it half way because of all the things I ran into that demanded attention.

Wolves fighting walrus, a typical cave type dungeon, a shrine with a dead guy at it where blasts of icy magic hit me when I tried to approach so I had to figure a short way in to loot the body and alter, a random skeleton warrior shooting arrows at me enticed me up a hill where I found a small one person tomb in the open world (no zone load) guarded by a tough undead, a cluster of clams and barnacles going off under water all harvestable, a camp where two fishermen (read a journal) had set up but gone off to hunt, a rare snow fox that I had to chase a bit and shoot a few arrows at before I got it for it's fur, a wrecked ship in which bandits had set up a base with back entrances guarded by bear traps and a stash of supplies, a hidden gold vein on top of any icy hill you would never need to go to, an ice berg floating off with a lone wolf trapped on top howling and then the dead bodies of the two fishermen near... it never ends... and the whole time you're finding books refferencing other places with stories, treasure maps, or people are telling you to visit one town or another to join causes.

Content wise, Skyrim is the richest thing I've ever seen, and that makes it seem huge because you can never just auto run through three minutes of zero interest towards a waypoint and you're not pushing some story forward that you're only interested in part of, you're just exploring the world.

Charges Twilight fans with Ka-bar -Surfin's PlunderBunny LIIIIIIIIIIINNEEEEE PIIIEEEECCCCEEE!!!!!!! -Taedrin Using relativity to irrational numbers is smart -rodyas I no longer believe we landed on the moon. -Atticus Fynch

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#19 - 2011-11-12 14:22:43 UTC
Ahhh I just did not realize it had been released Shocked

Now I am stuck on asking for it for Christmas or going out and getting it tomorrow Ugh


Slade
Drifterin Thedark
#20 - 2011-11-12 16:53:17 UTC
Damned amazing. Must have played it for ~15 hours yesterday.

So far my only problem is that a companion who seemed to be invincible, and had gotten up from 'death' a few times, eventually died permanently. Not sure how the mechanics work exactly.

I'll never forget you, Lydia.
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