Ships & Modules

At some 30 million EHP you would need to drop a capital fleet on it just to take it down. Even then you have to do it before you lose the dictors and it warps to the station.

What do we have then? Just another Carrier but with bombers and the Motherships weren't created for the bombers but vice versa..

I have for some time felt they should add a outpost upgrade that will allow supers to dock there. It would be visible in the over view so players would know that outpost likely contained supers.

It would bring more meaning to a large alliances home base, most alliances would only put this upgrade on home base or staging outposts. Such staging points and home bases could not be so easily relocated, creating more strategic value in assaulting or defending them. This could be a very expensive upgrade, maybe taking multiple upgrade slots, so it would not be worthwhile for every outpost to have one.

With all the nerfs supers have seen in the last few years, it is understandable why so many super pilots are upset. Yes the ships were overpowered, and still are, but this is a ship, once you get into, you can not just jump in a different ship to go PVP. You can not dock, so either that character is basically married to that ship, or they need another holding character that can sit itn the ship to log it out, while their main goes to do something else. How would you feel if you spent years training a character, and finally got them into a super capital ship, only to have much of that ships utility removed by a nerf? Not a big deal if you could simply fly something else, but where do you park your super cap? If you can not dock it, switching to another ship becomes a burden, so much so, that the super cap becomes more of a burden than fun to fly.

Personally I believe that allowing supers to dock, not everywhere, but at select upgraded outposts, maybe put a limit on the upgrade to one per region. First outpost to get it becomes the most valuable outpost in the region. But if supers could be docked, and the pilots could fly something else, I believe we would see far more supers collecting dust in hangers, than out causing fleet mayhem. It is a lot easier to leave a ship sitting idle in a hanger, than leaving a character sitting idle in one of 3 slots on an account. They would still be available when needed for large fleet ops, but the pilots would not be stuck in them, unable to do anything else. On top of that we would have another layer of conflict. These rare stations where the supers can dock would be major assets to hold, and fight over. Having this as your alliance home base, you would not have the choice between defending your home, or relocating it, you would have to defend it, it would not be so easy to move if your alliance only controlled one such station.

If that makes me insane, than so be it. But what I do know is, I have no desire to ever get into a ship with such limited use, when I may never be able to get out of it again. So many players that constantly call for nerfs to supers seem to forget that part.

Exact my thoughts.
Your chained to a Supercarrier / Titan when your piloting one ... Sucks.

if you want a dockable super carrier. get a carrier and make it super expensive and there you go super carrier

Your missing the Rev.

Larger cargo bay: doesn't make it any better, how interesting it is for a ship log off 95% the time you spend playing with main character?
Can not be build in stations: any capital ship should be like that, from freighters/orcas to titans, hell every single dam ship should be build in POS, it's a MMO not a themepark, NPC station slots/industry should be simply removed !!
Deploys more drones: how many more or interesting it is being log off 95%+ of that character stuck in and doing nothing?
Deploy fighter bombers: trade off, more skills = better ships more options

Immune to to ewar: this needs to be scrap from the supers plain simple, leave it to Titans is OK
Slots number: bigger ship = more fittings, yeah that seems pretty logic to me
Able to fit remote ECM burst: it's a bigger ship requiring a huge amount of skills on top of regular one so, no issue here
Links: I'm against links providing such huge boosts on T3's and CS, I have alredy exposed my own idea in dedicated threads and if something I'd like to see is Supers and Titans only able to fit links to offer best boosts but still under half values of current benefits.

So whats left?
-30 million EHP as a reason to be unable to dock?

Reduce it to 5million and tweak a bit better resist profile, problem solved for players, more supers destroyed, better for the game overall.
More ships destroyed and expensive ones is good, not the other way around.

Edit: for those "ya like dock'in games hun?" With 5M EHP and unable to dock under a 15min timer after aggression and while offensive drones deployed a simple 10 BS blaster gang with support would wreck those all day long, do you really know what happens to those playing docking games with capital ships? -usually ends bad for them at a very high cost.

WTF, What have you been smoking??

Supers are only docked when a node crashes and characters and there ships are spawned at the station they are cloned at. This is how many caps and supers got into high sec back in the day.

The idea of docking your super is so you can fly something else, if you are logged off in it, you are not flying something else are you?

A 100M SP character that can not get out of their super, is useless when supers are nerfed into not being worthwhile to use. More nerfs/rebalanced are incoming for them.

When that happens the ability to dock them, even at only specific stations or upgraded outposts will go a long way to curb the rage.

I think your prediction is very accurate

That's why I savagely oppose the idea.

Elephant? Really?

Forcing a NYX (or any other super cap) to redock may not get you a kill mail, but it still effectively removes the Nyx from what ever engagement they where trying to get to. Station Games and station camping are BULLSHlT. Complaining that any super able to dock can not be killed on station when it undocks is pathetic. It is like spawn camping, and is more akin to grieving than PVP.

Allowing supers to dock may encourage more players to fly, or at least own supers. But it would also encourage more super pilots to dock their supers and fly something else.If you want supers out of the game, or at least less of them around, allowing them to collect dust docked in stations will do that, without generating any rage from the super pilots.

That being said I do not believe supers should be able to dock just any where. I would say one or two special stations in each region. This would not only allow supers to dock, but make those specific stations strategic assets worth fighting over. A great conflict driver.

For sovereign null sec where the only stations are outposts, I would say add a very expensive advanced upgrade that will allow the outpost to serve as a docking point for supers. Limit this to one or two per region. First Outposts to receive this upgrade lock out every other outpost in the region from getting it. They become the most valuable stations in the region. They become stratigic staging points, as well as primary targets when invading that region. This will force those installing the upgrade to plan ahead and make sure it is in an outpost, in the best defensible, strategic location.

I really believe this would do far more good than harm.