EVE General Discussion

Absolutely! Remove that stupid server cap. It's very un Eve ish.

I told you exactly why they are currently doing that sometimes. Because there is the possibility of being Hellcamped into that station.
Your suggestion would turn a hellcamp into something that prevents you from even logging in, along with a virtual guarantee that the station will no longer belong to you once it is attacked. Why would anyone stage in a structure that cannot be defended?

Since when does a Solar System have an arbitrary limit on how many people can be in it? How is that realistic (before you say gate limitations, remember that you can also enter systems without using gates)?
How is "allow for the possibility of defense" an unreasonable request? TiDi is an elegant mechanism to deal with the fact that big fights will (and should) happen when 20,000 person strong groups go to war.
The problem with your proposed limit is not the size of the limits, it's the fact that any arbitrary limits eliminate the possibility of significant fights. It's a formalized version of the problem we had before TiDi where the first side to load grid got a turkey shoot against the other side while they were black screened that.




You only need to cap out the systems you're attacking.



A response fleet which has to be able to respond anywhere in less time than it takes to light a cyno and press jump. Because once a system hits your proposed population cap, no defense is possible, because nobody can enter the system.

any hard limit, no matter how benign the reason behind it, can, and will, be exploited, no matter how you twist it, sprinkle it with spice, sugar coat it, and wrap it in candy paper.

So, now, force projection is a problem? I can get on that bandwagon. That's actually an important component of the argument that TiDi gives advantage to the larger side, because the attackers are probably under TiDi (read:gimped) and the people rushing to defend against the attack are probably not under TiDi (read:moving at full speed).

Now, I understand that there are certain entities that could conceivably destroy every structure in the game if structures didn't have timers, but there is an economic impact to that, as well as a diplomatic one. They can't blow stuff up ad infinitum. They will take losses. Losses must be replaced, and if you break everyone else's stuff, they'd have to be stupid to sell you the tools you need to continue to break their stuff. Also, things just get more expensive if you are destroying everything.

You can't just put 2000 players somewhere and win the game. You have to keep them there. You have to repel other players from gaining tactical or strategic positions. You have to secure your supply routes and store ships and materials. The imbalance that reinforcement timers impose on the game is not that last day or so of invincibility so much as it is all that time of invincibility before the structure was even engaged, when it was doing its job without anyone able to interfere. It is the knowledge other entities have that if they want to strike that target, they will have to do so en masse, or not at all. It's akin to playing chess with the rule that you needed all your pieces attacking the king in order to take him off the board. And, while that rule absolutely makes a certain sense from the standpoint of game design, at the end of the day, that period of reinforcement is a bunch of wasted time that both the server and the players could put to better use sorting out who's internet space empire controlled what station or system.

Think about it: There is a lull in activity while something is coming out of reinforced, then a flurry of activity as one side tries to move the structure out of its vulnerable state and the other side tries to destroy/flip it. If you spread the potential for that activity out over a longer duration a->y, there will be less incentive for groups of players to overload the system at time z.

If Boat is reading this, he's probably harder than a maximum hardened Caldari large POS by now.

Pity supercarriers can't shoot POSes. I think.

Unfortunately, TiDi is not gameplay transparent as OP shows. It's a bandaid (albeit a good one) to fix a server capacity problem.

There should be an expectation of a permanent solution, and not a long road of balance changes to compensate for TiDi. The goal is to get to the point where TiDi is never engaged.

We the blobbers will continue to push as many players as we can onto a single grid at once.

i may sound like a broken record here, but for some reason you have missed that question a couple of times so i'm just posting it again so you see it

please explain how you're proposing to mount a defense in less than 5 minutes
(less than 2 minutes in fact according to RubyPorto, and i have no reason to doubt his numbers)

You don't own any structures, that's how. Finally, the broken POS code is no longer an issue, POSes will affect nearly no players at all.