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*** Drones Automaticaly Return to Drone Bay on Disconnect!? *** SISI ***

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2011-11-10 16:08:22 UTC
mission runner ship with sentry drones out gets a disconnect, dies to frigates because the sentries cant return to ship

i love this change

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#22 - 2011-11-10 17:23:17 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
mission runner ship with sentry drones out gets a disconnect, dies to frigates because the sentries cant return to ship

i love this change


If ships will not wait for their drones if the drones can't make it in time for the emergency warpout, how will having sentries out cause the ship to die?

Color me confused by your sarcasm here, it seems misplaced.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#23 - 2011-11-10 17:52:40 UTC
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
mission runner ship with sentry drones out gets a disconnect, dies to frigates because the sentries cant return to ship

i love this change


If ships will not wait for their drones if the drones can't make it in time for the emergency warpout, how will having sentries out cause the ship to die?

Color me confused by your sarcasm here, it seems misplaced.


He blew his wad too early and didn't read the whole thread or the CCP reply. It happens sometimes, it's perfectly normal they say.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
CCP Soulblighter
C C P
C C P Alliance
#24 - 2011-11-10 18:58:10 UTC
I encourage everyone to poke into this Test Server Feedback thread as I've been fielding questions about the feature over there Smile
Orlacc
#25 - 2011-11-10 19:05:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
Skippermonkey wrote:
mission runner ship with sentry drones out gets a disconnect, dies to frigates because the sentries cant return to ship

i love this change



Huh?



Having actually read CCP, I think it's about time!

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#26 - 2011-11-10 19:06:31 UTC
Those of us who use drone modules and rigs to extend the drone engagement range to such extent that the drones have to send a postcard to let us know they are still around will not benefit from this.


But it's a fantastic feature. I think miners and those who like to stay close on their own sentry drones will derive the most benefit from this.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Lili Lu
#27 - 2011-11-10 19:11:59 UTC
Or maybe they have replaced the cats with dogs, as the pilots for the drones? Btw, what is this AI of which you speak? o.0
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#28 - 2011-11-10 19:16:38 UTC
But...but, I consider scooping abandoned drones from the field of honor my just reward for not being one of the logoffkies.

Good for missioners, though, I suppose.

Overall a wise and just decision by CCP and one that many have been asking for for years.

Mr Epeen Cool
Noriko Mai
#29 - 2011-11-10 19:41:25 UTC
Lili Lu wrote:
Or maybe they have replaced the cats with dogs, as the pilots for the drones? Btw, what is this AI of which you speak? o.0


Where the hell have you got your headphone from? I want one as well.

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
Lili Lu
#30 - 2011-11-10 19:50:43 UTC
It was in the Nex store. You probably don't have enough RL currency for it :P
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Ok, actually it's a free Princess Leia hairstyle in the character customization. Shhhh
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#31 - 2011-11-10 20:43:17 UTC
You folks are doing a damned fine job, CCP. Don't be discouraged by the malcontents who, no matter what you do, say or deliver, will never be happy.

Excellent stuff this, can't wait to hop back on to Sisi to take another look-see.

COO - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse  CEO - Sanctuary Pact Alliance
Written Word
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2011-11-10 21:11:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Written Word
Boy, the next expansion after winter is going to suck when you go back to working on vampires
bornaa
GRiD.
#33 - 2011-11-10 21:14:20 UTC
Written Word wrote:
Boy, the next expansion after winter is going to suck when you go back to working on vampires


DUST is main thing for next year... DUST comes out in summer... so expect all expansion small and PI oriented...
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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#34 - 2011-11-10 22:04:55 UTC
bornaa wrote:
Written Word wrote:
Boy, the next expansion after winter is going to suck when you go back to working on vampires


DUST is main thing for next year... DUST comes out in summer... so expect all expansion small and PI oriented...


Well PI is going to need some massive improvements to be interesting enough to warrant fighting over it.
theteck
#35 - 2011-11-11 01:23:50 UTC
ya

finnaly something for me ... its very anoying when you have dc


ty very mutch


CCP Guard wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
Interesting...

I'm very curious to see if it works as worded, or the drones just magically reappear in your drone bay.

If your ship does not warp until the drones fly back, I see many issues:

1) If the drones must cover large distances, your ship will not warp for a long time.
2) To tackle a logoffski pilot, simply tackle his drones and prevent them from returning.
3) A ship with sentry drones out will never warp if he's not in scoop range.

Does it apply to fighters and fighter bombers? Tackling and killing those is a fun way to punish docking ring hot droppers for thinking they're pro. If all they have to do is logoffski to get them back magically, that would suck, and if it prevents them from e-warping when they do log off, it would suck for them.


While I'm a heavy drone user and would prefer not to see my precious little ******** DPS machines get lost, I'd much rather lose them than my ship and think this change leaves a lot of questions to answer.


The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones.

The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master Smile

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Cunane Jeran
#36 - 2011-11-11 01:34:49 UTC
I just felt something... I think it was thousands of Gallente cheering in unison.
Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
#37 - 2011-11-11 01:45:40 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:
Logic?
Usability?
Convenience?
Implementation?

What has CCP become!


I know, I'm scared too.... Shocked

But seriously, I'm liking the new direction they appear to be taking and with this new feature, my Gallente heart beats proudly once again.

Surrender is still your slightly less painful option.
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#38 - 2011-11-11 03:17:55 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:
Logic?
Usability?
Convenience?
Implementation?
Dynamite?

What has CCP become!


Fixed to finish the obvious direction this had to be going in.
CCP Affinity
C C P
C C P Alliance
#39 - 2011-11-11 09:16:08 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:

The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones.

The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master Smile


Fantastic, thank you :)

Any chance sentry drones will stop clearing their aggro or command list and picking their own targets too?



CCP Masterplan is currently fixing this issue with the drone AI :)

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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#40 - 2011-11-11 09:22:46 UTC
Daedalus Arcova wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones.

The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master Smile


Even the Devs double-post. Fix the forums, CCP.

If drones are sufficiently complex AI to attempt to return to a ship before it e-warps, shouldn't they also be sufficiently complex for pilots to reconnect to them if the connection between ship and drone is lost?

Drones have complex AIs, yet you cannot reconnect to them.
Probes are just probes, yet you can reconnect to them.


Would you be happy if I told you that that's also going into the Winter Expansion?

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