Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Personally I feel that reconassaince cruisers should be the fastest cruisers available, especially the combat recons.

Recons are one of the few ships that genuinely interest me. Right now I feel they don't really bring enough to the table in terms of mobility. I've literally had amarr bc outrun me because they can align faster than my rook.

My proposal would be 20% flat improvement to agility and an increase to 4.25 warp speed. The only things that should be outrunning a combat recon are frigates. Anything else runs in contravention to the whole principle of a recon scout.

I find this issue rather relevant. Boost recons for more health please.

I think its important to remember we have a combat recon as wekl as force recon. Current force recons are definitly fleet vessels whereas combat recons feel like they should be solo boats but they arent really good enougj at that to work. I have killed stuff in rooks before but its situational and the lack of cloak or decent defences would push this vessel back in to a fleet role where it competes with the falcon for utility.

Combat recons should get covops cloqks as well to make them more predatory. The lack of covert cyno capacity is enough to distinguish this ship from a falcon. If necessary give the falcon an ecm range bonus due to role and rook a resist bonus to further delineate their differences

I hope Recons will get their balance pass soon. They are my favorite ships in theory, but currently so weak that they see little use. Especially Force Recons.

Their "long-range" ewar is not worth much when every second ship they likely face on the battlefield is a lot faster and more agile than they are. They can't run away, with their tiny capacitor and awful recharge they can't even run a MWD for more than a minute.

If you want to have any mobility, you need to shield-tank, and then you can fit only a single module that makes use of their supposed role bonus, i.e. webs, scrams, TD (only Falcon can shield-tank and still have 2-4 ECMs).

Damage is a joke, especially because you cannot apply whatever little damage you have. Force Recons must stay at range, but cannot do any significant damage at range. Falcon and Rapier should have launcher hardpoints and a HML bonus. (Pilgrim is quite ok in this regard.)

A lot of ships received resilience buffs, so maybe something else could be done to Recons. How about they get a lot more speed and agility, vastly improved cap recharge and a big bonus to capacitor use of repair systems? So they would remain very squishy once tackled, but could be very good at moving around and avoid getting tackled in the first place, and able to run a modest but sustained active tank to survive glancing blows and drone damage. Something like a 200-300 dps tank but little buffer. So once caught, they'd still die like flies.

And the endless power creep continues.....

T1 cruisers are better that that, apart from the scram range...

that's pretty good. my rook has less than 10k ehp but gets about 500 to 550 dps depending on configuration. Simple figures like that aren't the key features of the vessel though. It's too slow and doesn't have enough defence for a ship designed to be actually fighting

Exactly, reconnaissance craft should be maneuverable and fast, giving up defensive/offensive capabilities in order to fill that role more effectively (technically, most interceptors fit this description better), unless they rename the class to Electronic Attack Cruisers and Covert Ops Cruisers then scrap the recon name.

what exactly should a comba recon be able to do as a role?